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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Calling Germany
Date: 25 Jun 2010 12:36:25
Message: <4c24db09$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> I was under the impression that I just need to dail 0049,

I always hate when people put international numbers on web sites and then 
tell you how to dial them from inside their own country.

The number should be "+49 ....".  But I see all kinds of "call 01049..." 
kinds of crap that doesn't even apply on half the phones in one country.

Try dialing "+49..." on your cell phone and see what you get.

Like in the USA, half the people advertise their number as a "1-800 number". 
A number in the 800 area code is toll-free. The only reason there's a 1 on 
front is that switches commonly in use when 800 numbers were first coming 
around needed you to dial a 1 to tell it there's an area code coming up. And 
even tho "1" is the USA country code (it's good to be the king), you can't 
dial +1-800-... from outside the USA and get to where you want to go. So 
advertising it as a 1-800 number is *wrong*. :-)

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Eiffel - The language that lets you specify exactly
    that the code does what you think it does, even if
    it doesn't do what you wanted.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Calling Germany
Date: 25 Jun 2010 15:19:07
Message: <4C25012E.7010402@gmail.com>
On 25-6-2010 18:12, clipka wrote:
> Am 25.06.2010 17:01, schrieb Invisible:
> 
>>> Could it possibly be that you need to dial another 0 to dial out of
>>> your office's internal phone network?
>>
>> No. I'm using my mobile phone.
> 
> Then just dial "+49" instead of the inner-German "0" and you should be 
> fine (give the "*" key a long press to get the "+").
> 
> 
>> The fun part is, even if I manage to get through, they probably all
>> speak German anyway... Isn't Internet ordering fun? :-S
> 
> There's a long tradition of learning English as the first foreign 
> language at German schools, so you can expect at least the question "Do 
> you speak English?" to be understood. Typical answer would be "a bit", 
> and chances are you'll be able to communicate with them in your native 
> language. 

Even if the answer is 'a bit' chances are that the person on the other 
end of the line has a better mastery of English than your neighbour. 
Especially in the relevant jargon.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Frustration
Date: 25 Jun 2010 16:21:09
Message: <4c250fb5$1@news.povray.org>
OK, at this point I am seriously not happy.

All month I've been receiving a deluge of emails frantically urging me 
to buy one of these exciting products that are half price FOR THIS MONTH 
ONLY!

Except that I have now tried 8 seperate times to purchase the product I 
want, and the website point-blank *refuses* to accept my order. What the 
hell is the point of advertising something that you can't actually buy?!

As if that wasn't bad enough, I contacted the Order Support Team over a 
week ago, and they still haven't bothered to reply to me. And today I 
tried to phone them, and their number apparently doesn't exist. Customer 
service? WHAT CUSTOMER SERVICE?!?

Remind me, I'm trying to give these useless people my money, WHY...?

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Frustration
Date: 25 Jun 2010 18:04:53
Message: <4c252805$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Remind me, I'm trying to give these useless people my money, WHY...?

because you're foolishly trying to buy something from a company that costs 
enough that the sale is important, but not so much that you actually want a 
company that'll stand behind it when you get the wrong product or it doesn't 
work?

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    C# - a language whose greatest drawback
    is that it's best implementation comes
    from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Frustration
Date: 26 Jun 2010 03:20:25
Message: <4c25aa39@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Remind me, I'm trying to give these useless people my money, WHY...?
> 
> because you're foolishly trying to buy something from a company that 
> costs enough that the sale is important, but not so much that you 
> actually want a company that'll stand behind it when you get the wrong 
> product or it doesn't work?

*sigh*

NI may make award-winning products, but they have hopeless customer 
service. :-(

Needless to say, this is the first time I've tried to buy from their 
website. Usually I buy from, you know, a physical shop. One that might 
actually deliver some aftersales support...

(Unfortunately, there are no longer any shops in this part of the 
country that sell the product I want.)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Calling Germany
Date: 28 Jun 2010 02:35:09
Message: <4c28429d@news.povray.org>
>> Usefully you can use the "+" on most mobile phones, so that it always 
>> works in any country (not all countries use "00" as the international 
>> prefix).
>
> Really? I didn't know that...

Useful to store all your contacts in that format, in case you ever travel 
abroad...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Frustration
Date: 28 Jun 2010 03:54:04
Message: <4c28551c$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> NI may make award-winning products, but they have hopeless customer 
> service. :-(
> 
> Needless to say, this is the first time I've tried to buy from their 
> website.

Weird thing: If you pay using PayPal, it works perfectly, first time. 
Isn't that nice? :-P


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From: TC
Subject: Re: Calling Germany
Date: 30 Jun 2010 16:54:36
Message: <4c2baf0c@news.povray.org>
In case you have not solved your problem yet: maybe you are dialing the 
wrong region.

Here in Germany if you want to place a national call you start dialing (AREA 
CODE) (LOCAL NUMBER). Area code is 0xxxx and starts with a 0.

Example for fictional number: Berlin, 123 456 789 - in advertisement this 
number is usually written (030) 123 456 789.

(030: area code for Berlin)

Local call:             123 456 789
National call:         030 123 456 789
International call:   0049 30 123 456 789

Don't forget to drop the leading zero in the area code for international 
calls. If you knew (and remembered), no flames please ;-)


"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4c24c17e$1@news.povray.org...
> OK, apparently I am too stupid to figure this out, but... How the hell do 
> I dail Germany from the UK?? >_<
>
> I was under the impression that I just need to dail 0049, but I'm being 
> told the number doesn't exist. (The other possibility, of course, is that 
> the number on the website is wrong - but given that the message I'm 
> getting is clearly in English...)


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From: TC
Subject: Re: Calling Germany
Date: 30 Jun 2010 16:55:46
Message: <4c2baf52$1@news.povray.org>
Wrong thread, sorry.


"TC" <NoB### [at] Nowherecom> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4c2baf0c@news.povray.org...
> In case you have not solved your problem yet: maybe you are dialing the 
> wrong region.
>
> Here in Germany if you want to place a national call you start dialing 
> (AREA CODE) (LOCAL NUMBER). Area code is 0xxxx and starts with a 0.
>
> Example for fictional number: Berlin, 123 456 789 - in advertisement this 
> number is usually written (030) 123 456 789.
>
> (030: area code for Berlin)
>
> Local call:             123 456 789
> National call:         030 123 456 789
> International call:   0049 30 123 456 789
>
> Don't forget to drop the leading zero in the area code for international 
> calls. If you knew (and remembered), no flames please ;-)
>
>
> "Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
> news:4c24c17e$1@news.povray.org...
>> OK, apparently I am too stupid to figure this out, but... How the hell do 
>> I dail Germany from the UK?? >_<
>>
>> I was under the impression that I just need to dail 0049, but I'm being 
>> told the number doesn't exist. (The other possibility, of course, is that 
>> the number on the website is wrong - but given that the message I'm 
>> getting is clearly in English...)
>
>
>


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From: TC
Subject: Re: Calling Germany
Date: 30 Jun 2010 16:56:57
Message: <4c2baf99$2@news.povray.org>
In case you have not solved your problem yet: maybe you are dialing the
wrong region.

Here in Germany if you want to place a national call you start dialing (AREA
CODE) (LOCAL NUMBER). Area code is 0xxxx and starts with a 0.

Example for fictional number: Berlin, 123 456 789 - in advertisement this
number is usually written (030) 123 456 789.

(030: area code for Berlin)

Local call:             123 456 789
National call:         030 123 456 789
International call:   0049 30 123 456 789

Don't forget to drop the leading zero in the area code for international
calls. If you knew (and remembered), no flames please ;-)

"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4c24c17e$1@news.povray.org...
> OK, apparently I am too stupid to figure this out, but... How the hell do 
> I dail Germany from the UK?? >_<
>
> I was under the impression that I just need to dail 0049, but I'm being 
> told the number doesn't exist. (The other possibility, of course, is that 
> the number on the website is wrong - but given that the message I'm 
> getting is clearly in English...)


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