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From: Paul Fuller
Subject: Re: Fan without blades: should we ROTFL or weep?
Date: 6 Jun 2010 10:30:13
Message: <4c0bb0f5@news.povray.org>
On 6/06/2010 11:55 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Paul Fuller wrote:
>
>> Ok. I admit I did buy a fridge for its cool factor alone.
>
> Oh. So it wasn't just because you needed the storage space for all the
> bodies? ;-)
>

That is what gazebos are for.


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From: SharkD
Subject: Re: Fan without blades: should we ROTFL or weep?
Date: 6 Jun 2010 10:52:54
Message: <4c0bb646@news.povray.org>
On 6/5/2010 3:58 AM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> True. Then again, the entire inside of my PC is carpeted in dust; why
> not the fans? I guess somebody more qualified than me can explain why
> fans get dusty...

The fans and heatsink tend to be the dirtiest parts of my computer. They 
always get clogged with dirt first.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Fan without blades: should we ROTFL or weep?
Date: 6 Jun 2010 11:26:14
Message: <4c0bbe16$1@news.povray.org>
SharkD wrote:
> On 6/5/2010 3:58 AM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> True. Then again, the entire inside of my PC is carpeted in dust; why
>> not the fans? I guess somebody more qualified than me can explain why
>> fans get dusty...
> 
> The fans and heatsink tend to be the dirtiest parts of my computer. They 
> always get clogged with dirt first.

The heatsink I can understand. It's a small, confined space that 
constantly has dust being blown into it. Not quite so sure why the fan 
clogs up.

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Fan without blades: should we ROTFL or weep?
Date: 6 Jun 2010 13:29:46
Message: <4c0bdb0a$1@news.povray.org>
Paul Fuller wrote:
> On 6/06/2010 12:58 PM, Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>>
>> Jump to new topic: Dyson's patents may have run out, but I haven't seen
>> any bagged or bag-less vac that beats the old Rainbows. Similar concept,
>> impel the air into a cyclone; only the rainbows used a cyclone of water.
>>
> 
> I have seen but not used water based vacs.  More tagged as 'carpet
> cleaning'.  You could hire them from shops at one point.  Maybe they
> were the 'Rainbow' mode that you mentioned?
> 

The ones I have seen at shops, or more specifically adverts for cleaning
shops, are ones that push water onto the carpet and then pull it back
off again. Used with water, they are called carpet shampooers around
here. The vac I used worked like a normal vacuum, but instead of a bag
or bin it just funneled the air into a container of water. Absolutely
disgusting to watch water turn from clear to filled with the stuff one
house could hold on the floor in a week. Worked better than HEPA
filters, though.

>> Back to topic: I saw one of the Dyson fans at a big store, I was
>> impressed by the design. It does hit "Oh, shiny" quite well. But I will
>> still wait for the cheap knock-offs, I can't afford $300 for
>> mass-produced art.
> 
> Same here.  Doesn't seem like a big enough problem to warrant the
> expense (assuming that they are indeed better).  I've never bought
> things for cool factor alone.

Oh, I would and have. Just not pop-art.

> Plus I would almost never buy V1 of something radically new.  Even the
> original Dyson vac looks relatively primitive and lacks a lot of the
> refinements of the newer generations.

Also a good reason. However, I can not see many directions to take the
fan concept. Higher speeds, maybe, or floor stands.

Now, if they made a humidifier version, and added blue LEDs inside the
turbine to make the mist glow, then I might get one.


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From: Paul Fuller
Subject: Re: Fan without blades: should we ROTFL or weep?
Date: 6 Jun 2010 19:34:10
Message: <4c0c3072@news.povray.org>
On 7/06/2010 3:29 AM, Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>
> Oh, I would and have. Just not pop-art.
>

Examples please.

>
> Now, if they made a humidifier version, and added blue LEDs inside the
> turbine to make the mist glow, then I might get one.

Sounds like a DIY project.

I was thinking about trying it with a polystyrene ball.  Point the fan 
upwards.  Throw the ball up into the ring.  The air flow carries it 
through.  Then would it be trapped in the stream above the ring by the 
Bernoulli effect ?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Fan without blades: should we ROTFL or weep?
Date: 6 Jun 2010 22:39:30
Message: <4c0c5be2$1@news.povray.org>
Paul Fuller wrote:
> Then would it be trapped in the stream above the ring by the 
> Bernoulli effect ?

Yes. Dyson made a video where they routed balloons thru many dozen of these 
things in a big loop.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Eiffel - The language that lets you specify exactly
    that the code does what you think it does, even if
    it doesn't do what you wanted.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Fan without blades: should we ROTFL or weep?
Date: 7 Jun 2010 00:32:10
Message: <4c0c764a$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:34:08 +1000, Paul Fuller wrote:

> I was thinking about trying it with a polystyrene ball.  Point the fan
> upwards.  Throw the ball up into the ring.  The air flow carries it
> through.  Then would it be trapped in the stream above the ring by the
> Bernoulli effect ?

I imagine it would, much like a toy I had when I was a kid.

Jim


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From: Paul Fuller
Subject: Re: Fan without blades: should we ROTFL or weep?
Date: 7 Jun 2010 02:28:08
Message: <4c0c9178$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/06/2010 12:39 PM, Darren New wrote:
> Paul Fuller wrote:
>> Then would it be trapped in the stream above the ring by the Bernoulli
>> effect ?
>
> Yes. Dyson made a video where they routed balloons thru many dozen of
> these things in a big loop.
>

Here it is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WNcjkZ6d0w


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Fan without blades: should we ROTFL or weep?
Date: 7 Jun 2010 14:05:24
Message: <4c0d34e4$1@news.povray.org>
Paul Fuller wrote:
> On 7/06/2010 3:29 AM, Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>>
>> Oh, I would and have. Just not pop-art.
>>
> 
> Examples please.
> 

I suppose the definition of 'cool' would be the trick. To me, hand made
jewelery is cool, even if it is just driveway gravel wrapped in plastic
electrical wire. Cheap old cameras are cool, more so if I can make them
work again. Bow-ties are cool. Non-functional? The doll that happened to
match my desk so well that she has sat on it for years without being
noticed often. Some old networking hubs that will look nice in the 19U
racks that serve as storage cabinets. An old brick car phone.

All cheap, but all purchased because of that 'oh, cool, I don't need
that but I want it' factor.

If you were scoping to see what was worth stealing, not a whole lot. ;-)

>>
>> Now, if they made a humidifier version, and added blue LEDs inside the
>> turbine to make the mist glow, then I might get one.
> 
> Sounds like a DIY project.
> 

Right, for the cheap knock offs. That way, when the liquid fries one of
the motors, I am only out a few dollars.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Fan without blades: should we ROTFL or weep?
Date: 7 Jun 2010 14:43:06
Message: <4c0d3dba$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/06/2010 7:05 PM, Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>>> Oh, I would and have. Just not pop-art.
>>> >>
>> >
>> >  Examples please.
>> >
> I suppose the definition of 'cool' would be the trick. To me, hand made
> jewelery is cool, even if it is just driveway gravel wrapped in plastic
> electrical wire. Cheap old cameras are cool, more so if I can make them
> work again. Bow-ties are cool...

Good job I did not reply in High Dudgeon. ;-)


-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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