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Warp wrote:
> The iPad is not being marketed as a laptop. Why are you expecting it to be?
To be honest, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell the iPad *is*
being marketed as. What's it supposed to *do*??
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > The iPad is not being marketed as a laptop. Why are you expecting it to be?
> To be honest, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell the iPad *is*
> being marketed as. What's it supposed to *do*??
You can play iPhone and iPad games with it, so it's a gaming platform.
There are also tons and tons of other applications for the iPhone, and in
the near future iPad-specific apps. You can also browse the WWW, read
your email, etc. You can buy and read ebooks, as well as iTunes music and
movies.
You can do all of those things (well, except for the ebooks) in an
iPhone/iPod Touch as well, but the iPad has a larger screen and larger
resolution, so things like browsing the WWW and watching movies are much
more comfortable.
So it's a multimedia platform.
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- Warp
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On 16/05/2010 10:11 AM, Warp wrote:
> You can do all of those things (well, except for the ebooks) in an
> iPhone/iPod Touch as well, but the iPad has a larger screen and larger
> resolution, so things like browsing the WWW and watching movies are much
> more comfortable.
You can read books on the iphone using an app called Stanza and convert
soft books and documents using calibre. Both are free.
Holding my iphone sideways I get 9 lines of text on the screen, it is
usable. I read about 5 books on it before buying a Sony PRS-600. The
iphone app is handy because I have my phone to hand and can dip into a
--
Best Regards,
Stephen
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Warp wrote:
> The iPad is not being marketed as a laptop. Why are you expecting it to be?
I wasn't, really. I was hoping it could serve for one, for sufficiently
modest needs.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Ada - the programming language trying to avoid
you literally shooting yourself in the foot.
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And lo On Sun, 16 May 2010 05:26:53 +0100, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> did
spake thusly:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Except ... there's no backup
>
> There is.
>
>> the disk is tiny, there's no external storage,
>> there's no printer connection, no scanner connector, no way to put
>> music on
>> it without buying it, no way to put music you already bought onto it,
>> ...
>
> The iPad is not being marketed as a laptop.
No it's being marketed as "The best way to experience the web, email,
photos, and video. Hands down" So you're going to get people thinking "I
just my laptop to surf the web, get my email and look at my photos. Hey I
can get this cool iPad instead" or even as Darren suggested possibly get
it for someone who does really just do that. At which point you discover
you're tied to using the Apple Store to get your music, you can't import
any of your existing music, you can't get your photos to it unless you use
the optional "iPad Camera Connection Kit" because using a standard USB
slot would be way to easy. You can't backup those photos or email easily.
Yes it's an accessory, but it's not really being marketed as that either.
If they'd proclaimed that it was a big iPhone without the ability to make
calls people would probably grasp that it had limitations, but they're not
so it's a reasonable question to ask and a reasonable thing to expect.
> Do you buy an XBox360 and expect it to be a PC? There are similarly
> many
> thing that can be done with a PC that cannot be done with an XBox360.
Do you buy a PS3 expecting it to be a PC? Yet I can surf the net, view my
photos, get videos, import my CDs, I can hook up a mouse and keyboard and
even print from it. In theory there's nothing stopping anyone from
creating a PS3 word processor or spread sheet that runs off a disc.
Nothing stopping Sony adding such as a permanent app in the same way as
VidZone or iPlayer was added. The lines blur and what defines a product is
less what it can do, but what it can't do. An iPad fulfills the criteria
needed for a casual laptop user until you hit the restrictions.
--
Phil Cook
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I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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Phil Cook v2 <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
> No it's being marketed as "The best way to experience the web, email,
> photos, and video. Hands down" So you're going to get people thinking "I
> just my laptop to surf the web, get my email and look at my photos. Hey I
> can get this cool iPad instead" or even as Darren suggested possibly get
> it for someone who does really just do that. At which point you discover
> you're tied to using the Apple Store to get your music, you can't import
> any of your existing music, you can't get your photos to it unless you use
> the optional "iPad Camera Connection Kit" because using a standard USB
> slot would be way to easy. You can't backup those photos or email easily.
You won't be able to use your laptop on a 10-hour flight to watch movies
all the way.
Besides, you can backup the contents of an iPhone/iPad.
> Do you buy a PS3 expecting it to be a PC? Yet I can surf the net, view my
> photos, get videos, import my CDs, I can hook up a mouse and keyboard and
> even print from it. In theory there's nothing stopping anyone from
> creating a PS3 word processor or spread sheet that runs off a disc.
Nothing stops anyone from making a word processor or spread sheet for the
iPad either. In fact, Apple is encouraging people to do so.
--
- Warp
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> The iPad is not being marketed as a laptop. Why are you expecting it to
> be?
I think the issue is that nowadays everyone expects anything the size of the
iPad with a screen to support a number of standard features. These include
a USB socket for connection to external drives: memory sticks, card readers,
cameras, printers etc. TBH this was the first I heard that you cannot
connect any standard external devices to the iPad, I would have assumed it
had a USB socket. It does has WLAN and/or bluetooth right? Can't you just
share folders from another device that way? A bit inconvenient if you have
a passive device like a memory stick or MP3 player.
> Do you buy an XBox360 and expect it to be a PC? There are similarly many
> thing that can be done with a PC that cannot be done with an XBox360.
The PS3 OS actually gives you the option to install a Linux OS if you want,
and the Xbox360 lets you write programs for it using C# and XNA, so it those
respects modern games consoles pretty much are PCs.
Anyway, if I did buy an XBox360 I would expect it to do certain things as
standard, like let me connect a memory stick and listen to the music on it
or look at the photos and videos on it. Or grab files from the network to
show. There's a huge user outcry even when some specific format of video is
not supported by a games console, imagine what would happen if it didn't
support *any* external connection!
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scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> the Xbox360 lets you write programs for it using C# and XNA
You make it sound like you cannot write your own programs for the iPhone
or iPad. You can (although in this case it has to be with Objective-C++).
> Anyway, if I did buy an XBox360 I would expect it to do certain things as
> standard, like let me connect a memory stick and listen to the music on it
> or look at the photos and videos on it.
Well, the iPhone is more like an iPod with respect to music (it was even
initially marketed as such, iow. smartphone+iPod) rather than a general-use
portable computer. At first you couldn't even write software for it (but
that changed later).
I suppose the iPad continues the same ideology of being a tight sandbox
which is safe to use and hard to mess up (unlike a laptop, which is simply
a PC/Mac, and which is very easy to mess up).
An iPhone/iPad is not much different from buying a PSP or Nintendo DS.
Those are not even intended to be laptops either.
--
- Warp
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> An iPhone/iPad is not much different from buying a PSP or Nintendo DS.
I think that is the point a lot of people fail to understand, they see the
iPad and assume it will work like some kind of tablet PC, but it doesn't.
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On Tue, 18 May 2010 13:50:58 +0200, scott wrote:
> The PS3 OS actually gives you the option to install a Linux OS if you
> want,
Not anymore, not since the latest firmware update. The option was never
present on the slim models, either.
Jim
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