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Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> >> So you are saying that the programming language is no good unless it
> >> allows production code to be floated around on blogs?
> >
> > No, I'm saying that using whitespace as syntax is a bad idea.
>
> So is lower case letters, because EBCDIC doesn't support that. :-)
>
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> Linux: Now bringing the quality and usability of
> open source desktop apps to your personal electronics.
Actually EBCDIC does support lower case.
a thru i is x'81' to x'89'
j thru r is x'91' to x'99'
s thru z is x'a2' to x'a9'
I once had a case where I had to deal with lower case numbers.
0 thru 9 were encoded as x'b0' to x'b9'
To change to uppercase just 'or' with a blank (x'40').
To change uppercase to lowercase xor with x'bf'
There is even a valid card punch for lower case letters.
An a is a 12-0-1 punch,
A b is a 12-0-2 punch,
etc.
Isaac
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>>> Plus, as you're typing the arguments, it gives you help for each
>>> argument.
>>>
>>> I.e., so you know whether it's radians or degrees expected.
>>
>> Or find out what the hell the order of the argument is...
>
> Yep. Even better than type signatures, when you have three floats in a row.
Yeah, that one's fun. Haskellers tend to define aliases or new types
quite a lot. For example, Filepath is an alias to String, but
writeFile :: Filepath -> String -> IO ()
is more illuminating than just
writeFile :: String -> String -> IO ()
Even so, you do still find type signatures where it's not really obvious
what's what without some real documentation.
The *other* problem is that Haskell libraries tend not to be very
documented. :-(
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Darren New wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> As documented, VS doesn't indent things the way *I* like. ;-)
>
> Did you ever adjust it to your liking? There's a bunch of knobs to
> tweak, you know.
When last I looked at it, no amount of combinations would make it behave
the way I wanted. Maybe it's improved since then...
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Clarence1898 wrote:
> Actually EBCDIC does support lower case.
> a thru i is x'81' to x'89'
> j thru r is x'91' to x'99'
> s thru z is x'a2' to x'a9'
Why...why do you know this? o_O
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Warp wrote:
> nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> http://www.itworld.com/government/105031/will-wall-street-require-python
>
> Python must have the most idiotic block delimiter in the history of
> programming languages: Whitespace indentation.
I'm *far* more concerned that people are proposing to write financial
contracts in an ad hoc language like Python, rather than a more formally
rigoruous language...
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Clarence1898 wrote:
>
> > Actually EBCDIC does support lower case.
> > a thru i is x'81' to x'89'
> > j thru r is x'91' to x'99'
> > s thru z is x'a2' to x'a9'
>
> Why...why do you know this? o_O
>
> --
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> http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
Because unlike most of the people in this forum,
I live in an IBM mainframe world and need to
know this information.
Isaac
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Warp wrote:
>> So is lower case letters, because EBCDIC doesn't support that. :-)
> Yeah, I see how EBCDIC is as popular as html.
Obviously I was exagerating. The point is that it used to be you couldn't
paste javascript into a web page, because the < and > and such would get
corrupted. (Indeed, you still have to specially escape embedded javascript
sometimes in HTML markup.)
You're blaming the wrong tool.
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open source desktop apps to your personal electronics.
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Clarence1898 wrote:
> Actually EBCDIC does support lower case.
Whatever. The point is it isn't the language that's broken, but the tools to
display it.
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On 21/04/2010 8:16 PM, Darren New wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>>> So is lower case letters, because EBCDIC doesn't support that. :-)
>> Yeah, I see how EBCDIC is as popular as html.
>
> Obviously I was exagerating. The point is that it used to be you
> couldn't paste javascript into a web page, because the < and > and such
> would get corrupted. (Indeed, you still have to specially escape
> embedded javascript sometimes in HTML markup.)
>
> You're blaming the wrong tool.
>
Who is the right tool to blame? ;-)
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Stephen
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>> Why...why do you know this? o_O
>
> Because unlike most of the people in this forum,
> I live in an IBM mainframe world and need to
> know this information.
IBM still make mainframes?
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