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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Bl**dy elections
Date: 13 Apr 2010 17:41:04
Message: <4bc4e4f0$1@news.povray.org>
On 4/13/2010 8:20 AM, Darren New wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>>>> And that guy from Terminator is the governor of Florida.
>>>
>>> California.
>>
>> OK, well I knew it was one or other of the crazy states. ;-)
>
> Generally speaking, Florida isn't really considered one of the crazy
> ones. California and Massachusetts are the crazy ones.
>
Depends on your definition of crazy. A **lot** of the south still has 
the "I wear a confederate flag on my shirt to show that I like states 
rights, but I ain't no racist.", then you look at the two issues that 
where "state rights", and they where a) right to own slaves, and b) 
right to tell the fed to kiss their ass and break from the union, if 
they where not allowed to have (a). Its also common practice, even in 
Florida, to hear a lot of veiled racist comments from the locals, and 
find history books claiming that "economics" was the prime issue in the 
civil war, while glossing over the fact that the "economic issues" of 
the time where paying people to do work, a fear that losing slavery 
would devastate the south, and incomprehension as to how all that cotton 
was gonna get picked, without unpaid workers to do it for them. One of 
the favorite quotes is even, often, "Both blacks and whites benefited 
from the situation."

A large segment of the Tea-bagger movement is using rhetoric, and signs, 
and statements, that more than a few people who remember desegregation 
have commented sound damn familiar, and more than a few that, while 
claiming otherwise, are very similar to statements being made by 
secessionists *prior* to the civil war. Heck, some are even slipping up 
and stating the propaganda from the period, then backpedaling in false, 
but politically expedient, embarrassment. Nope, pretty much the whole 
south, including Florida, is full of some serious kooks, and from what 
one person said, who grew up there, even the liberals tend to believe 
the revisionist BS about the whole civil war thing not being at all 
about slaves or racism. California, by comparison, if not for a few 
religious kooks of their own, would make a good European nation (though, 
more so 30-40 years ago, before they let some of those kooks close down 
nude beaches, and other de-liberalizations).

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Bl**dy elections
Date: 13 Apr 2010 18:27:04
Message: <4bc4efb8@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Depends on your definition of crazy.

Well, there's crazy religious, crazy political, and crazy racist. California 
is just crazy.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Yes, we're traveling together,
   but to different destinations.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Bl**dy elections
Date: 14 Apr 2010 01:08:08
Message: <4bc54db8@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:20:52 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> Wasn't it Douglas Adams who said that the people who want to be leaders
> make the worst leaders? (And who also said "in summary: people are a
> problem".)

Yep, end of the final episode of the secondary phase of The Hitchhiker's 
Guide to the Galaxy.

"I only decide about MY universe.  My universe is what happens to my eyes 
and ears; anything else is surmise and hearsay."

Jim


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bl**dy elections
Date: 14 Apr 2010 04:05:35
Message: <4bc5774f$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> Well, there's crazy religious, crazy political, and crazy racist. 
> California is just crazy.

LOL!

I even saw an advert for prumes or something that said "the best fruits 
come from California". I think they were trying to be ironic...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bl**dy elections
Date: 14 Apr 2010 04:25:27
Message: <4BC57BF6.3080709@aolDOT.com>
On 14/04/2010 9:05 AM, Invisible wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>
>> Well, there's crazy religious, crazy political, and crazy racist.
>> California is just crazy.
>
> LOL!
>
> I even saw an advert for prumes or something that said "the best fruits
> come from California". I think they were trying to be ironic...

Some people like prunes and California is renowned for its farming fruit 
and wine.

-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bl**dy elections
Date: 14 Apr 2010 05:46:12
Message: <4bc58ee4$1@news.povray.org>
>> I even saw an advert for prumes or something that said "the best fruits
>> come from California". I think they were trying to be ironic...
> 
> Some people like prunes and California is renowned for its farming fruit 
> and wine.

Sure. But given the density of people in the advert doing zany things, I 
think they were trying to be ironic. ;-)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bl**dy elections
Date: 14 Apr 2010 06:17:42
Message: <4bc59646$1@news.povray.org>
On 14/04/2010 10:46 AM, Invisible wrote:
>>> I even saw an advert for prumes or something that said "the best fruits
>>> come from California". I think they were trying to be ironic...
>>
>> Some people like prunes and California is renowned for its farming
>> fruit and wine.
>
> Sure. But given the density of people in the advert doing zany things, I
> think they were trying to be ironic. ;-)

OK you saw the advert and I did not. I trust your judgement.

-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Bl**dy elections
Date: 14 Apr 2010 06:29:39
Message: <4bc59913@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:

> I trust your judgement.

Heh, well I'm glad one of us does... ;-)


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Bl**dy elections
Date: 14 Apr 2010 20:56:12
Message: <4bc6642c$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>>> I even saw an advert for prumes or something that said "the best fruits
>>> come from California". I think they were trying to be ironic...
>>
>> Some people like prunes and California is renowned for its farming 
>> fruit and wine.
> 
> Sure. But given the density of people in the advert doing zany things, I 
> think they were trying to be ironic. ;-)

Well, California is known for the density of its people.

Regards,
John


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From: Phil Cook v2
Subject: Re: Bl**dy elections
Date: 22 Apr 2010 11:50:54
Message: <op.vbkma6k6mn4jds@phils>
And lo On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:46:47 +0200, Doctor John <rea### [at] mysig> did  
spake thusly:

> Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>> Oh you should see the letters page of our local paper, they've been all
>> coming out the woodwork over the past month to tell us how wonderfully
>> they've been acting on our behalf.
>>
>> Sad to say with the short-termness of so many I can't blame them for the
>> deluge of letters.
>
> I've always thought that there is a definite case to be made for the
> disbarring of any candidate that actively seeks election.
>
> slightlyOOC The Labour candidate for my constituency is the drummer from
> Blur. How the **** does that qualify him as a putative MP?

I blame the media for putting these ideas into their heads "and now for an  
in-depth review of the main party manifestos we turn to Dappy from N-Dubz".

Then again what qualifies half of them? Some have worked their way up from  
the local level, some seem to have been parachuted in from on high.

> John (laughing 'cos otherwise I'd be crying)

You can always do both.

-- 
Phil Cook

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