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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> hey, how about paying a visit to your ophthalmologist? :D
BTW, here's a spot on comparison I caught from another forum.
DVD shot, upscaled to 1080p:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/Gone%20With%20The%20Wind/4ac8c10f.png
Bluray:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u98/adzez/Gone%20With%20The%20Wind/03a3bde1.png
guess for someone calling Mozart bland it's all equally blurry, but I can see
details of the dress, faces and background foliage in bluray HD glory. :)
and that's a very old movie, with blurry images by default! The difference is
much more pronounced in the crisp images of modern movies like, say, Pixar
movies:
http://www.pixartalk.com/2009/06/17/the-blu-ray-difference-with-pixar/
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nemesis wrote:
> and that's a very old movie, with blurry images by default!
Yeah, it really doesn't help to watch something recorded when color film was
new and amazing on blu-ray.
Do the same comparison with something like Batman.
And remember that DVD is significantly better than VHS and (most) broadcast,
while HDTV has only compression artifaacts to worry about.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The question in today's corporate environment is not
so much "what color is your parachute?" as it is
"what color is your nose?"
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > and that's a very old movie, with blurry images by default!
>
> Yeah, it really doesn't help to watch something recorded when color film was
> new and amazing on blu-ray.
>
> Do the same comparison with something like Batman.
I don't have Batman at hand, but I did provide a link to a reasonably modern
Pixar movie:
http://www.pixartalk.com/2009/06/17/the-blu-ray-difference-with-pixar/
like, DVD:
http://www.pixartalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/dvdcar.jpg
and bluray:
http://www.pixartalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bdcar.jpg
> And remember that DVD is significantly better than VHS and (most) broadcast,
> while HDTV has only compression artifaacts to worry about.
artifacts may be the bane of digital broadcast transmission, but from local
media, like DVD or BD, there's not much to worry about.
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> (And that of course is the other undesirable thing about digital TV.
> There used to be, like, 5 channels, 4 of them containing high quality
> programming. Now there's 500 channels and they're *all* showing utter
> crap that nobody would ever want to watch...)
That has nothing to do with digital TV. It's just the drop of quality
programming happened at the same time. Correlation != causation.
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nemesis wrote:
> I seriously think Andrew's glasses are wearing out, but the stores may be
> guilty
> indeed: many of them just play regular blurry DVDs on HDTVs. Talk about
> truly awful marketing skills...
Around here if you to to the store and ask "does that DVD player cope well
with DVD-Rs?", they'll tell you "sure, this demo is playing a pirated movie"
:)
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Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > I seriously think Andrew's glasses are wearing out, but the stores may be
> > guilty
> > indeed: many of them just play regular blurry DVDs on HDTVs. Talk about
> > truly awful marketing skills...
>
> Around here if you to to the store and ask "does that DVD player cope well
> with DVD-Rs?", they'll tell you "sure, this demo is playing a pirated movie"
> :)
I heard a woman next to me once arguing that the reason why the image was blurry
was precisely because it was a pirated movie. You know, those kinds where they
cram highly compressed 4 movies into a single disc. :P
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nemesis wrote:
> cram highly compressed 4 movies into a single disc. :P
Yep. You can actually get disks with an entire 10-hour miniseries on one
DVD. Looks like it, too.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The question in today's corporate environment is not
so much "what color is your parachute?" as it is
"what color is your nose?"
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nemesis wrote:
> artifacts may be the bane of digital broadcast transmission, but from local
> media, like DVD or BD, there's not much to worry about.
Agreed. Especially since, really, people *do* notice it and complain. For
about six months stuff was over-compressed. Now people have complained and
the signal has been cleaned up a bunch, at least around here.
It's usually just the fast motion where you notice, like the background
while the camera follows the sports player. If you're not looking for it,
you almost never notice it. Altho I do remember one or two explosions on DVD
where you could see the blockiness.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The question in today's corporate environment is not
so much "what color is your parachute?" as it is
"what color is your nose?"
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Darren New wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> and that's a very old movie, with blurry images by default!
>
> Yeah, it really doesn't help to watch something recorded when color film
> was new and amazing on blu-ray.
Depends on whether the blu-ray was a new digital copy of the old film,
or just the ancient VHS copy converted to a new format. That old
Kodachrome ASA 40 Super 8 film has a lot more information than even a
1080 TV can display, most of it in contrast.
That all assumes that one can find the film stock for old movies, anymore.
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On 03/07/10 13:52, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> OK, so I set up the BluRay player today and took it for a spin.
> So in summary, apart from the occasional shot where you go "oh, that
> looks a little sharper than usual", there's not much to see. (And most
What movie? If it's more than 5 years old, don't expect too much of a
difference.
> Now I've got Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. The box contains
> the exact same film on BD and DVD, so I can actually compare like for
> like. But I haven't done so yet.
That should show it.
--
If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?
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