Stephen <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> wrote:
> Don't your fuel pumps have a counter for volume and one for total price?

They do...
Charles

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Charles C wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> wrote:
>> Don't your fuel pumps have a counter for volume and one for total price?
> 




expensive car, has a MPG readout that will also tell you (in miles) how 
far you can drive before the tank is empty.


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Best Regards,
	Stephen

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Charles C wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Charles C wrote:
>>> People get confused if you ever try asking for a certain number of gallons
>> That must be pretty brain-damaged. I could handle that much when I was 12 or so.
> 
> 
> Try it.  (Adding emphasis on the word "gallons" would be cheating.)

I'm not sure what you mean. What do you think "I could handle that at 12" 
means if not that I handled it at 12?  My dad owned a service station.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   The question in today's corporate environment is not
   so much "what color is your parachute?" as it is
   "what color is your nose?"

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Charles C wrote:
> > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> Charles C wrote:
> >>> People get confused if you ever try asking for a certain number of gallons
> >> That must be pretty brain-damaged. I could handle that much when I was 12 or so.
> >
> >
> > Try it.  (Adding emphasis on the word "gallons" would be cheating.)
>
> I'm not sure what you mean. What do you think "I could handle that at 12"
> means if not that I handled it at 12?  My dad owned a service station.
>
> --
> Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
>    The question in today's corporate environment is not
>    so much "what color is your parachute?" as it is
>    "what color is your nose?"

I didn't make that inference. By "I could handle that at 12" I thought you meant
you could fulfill such a request at age 12, not that you necessarily had a
reason to.

By "try it" I meant try asking for some number of gallons and see how the gas
station attendant responds.  I didn't mean fuel people's cars ;)

I suppose I've only requested fuel into a car's tank by volume a couple of
times.  The first time, I got "x" dollars worth of fuel rather than "x" gallons
of fuel.  The second time I made it very clear that I wanted "x" gallons and was
told they could only punch in a dollar amount. (..which yes, is easy to
calculate.)

Charles

PS, sorry, I didn't mean to rat-hole on this.

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> I *wish* my cars could display how much fuel was left in some kind of 
> unit.

Every car I've driven within the last 5 years tells you how much fuel is 
left in either km or miles.

> dial. In the US they sell fuel by the gallon. (I live in a place where you
> aren't allowed to fuel your own car.  People get confused if you ever try 
> asking
> for a certain number of gallons rather than a certain number of 
> "dollars-worth"
> or "full".)

Why would you want to put a certain number of gallons into your car?

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> Sometimes parts are sold as 2.8 GHz because they're not stable enough to 
> run at 3.3 GHz or whatever. And sometimes they're sold as 2.8 because the 
> 2.8 bin is looking a bit empty this week.

Also don't forget the manufacturer will be testing for absolute worst case 
conditions, the CPU will only be binned at 3.3 GHz if they think it can 
survive running at 3.3 GHz (plus a bit) at the maximum specified temperature 
(plus a bit) for a long time.

They have to do that, because even 0.01% returned unstable CPUs is a huge 
cost for them - but what this means for the individual user is that they've 
got a very good chance of being able to overclock the CPU without any 
reliability issues.

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"scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote in message 
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>> Sometimes parts are sold as 2.8 GHz because they're not stable enough to 
>> run at 3.3 GHz or whatever. And sometimes they're sold as 2.8 because the 
>> 2.8 bin is looking a bit empty this week.
>
> Also don't forget the manufacturer will be testing for absolute worst case 
> conditions, the CPU will only be binned at 3.3 GHz if they think it can 
> survive running at 3.3 GHz (plus a bit) at the maximum specified 
> temperature (plus a bit) for a long time.
>
> They have to do that, because even 0.01% returned unstable CPUs is a huge 
> cost for them - but what this means for the individual user is that 
> they've got a very good chance of being able to overclock the CPU without 
> any reliability issues.
>

I don't know exactly what the manufacturer does, but I would figure that 
they sell a lot more of the 860's than the 870's, simply because there is a 
huge price difference (almost double), and very little performance 
difference between 2.8 and 2.9GHz.  So, even though the CPU may run at 
2.9GHz, they simply don't need to manufacture any more 870's, so it gets 
labeled as an 860.

Anyway...  At stock voltages, I was only able to take it up to 2.9GHz, and 
while it seemed stable, who cares?  I can get way higher than that!  After 
messing around for a couple hours or so, I was able to crank it up to about 
3.8GHz, but it was pretty unstable at that point.  I kept the same voltages 
and lowered it to 3.5GHz, and it seems to be very stable.  I lowered some of 
the voltages and it still seems very stable.  I ran Prime95 on it for about 
an hour and did a couple POV-Ray renders, and no trouble at all.

Apples and oranges, but I had a render that took over 20 hours (POV 3.6) on 
my old computer that ran in under 13 minutes on the new one (overclocked, 
POV 3.7 beta).  The gamma was messed up, though.  I guess I need to read-up 
on how to compensate for that.  Some of the sample scenes ran so fast that 
it didn't even have time to measure the time, and they showed up with a time 
of 0:00.

Suddenly, I'm really starting to feel like rendering again.  Who knew?

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Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:

> Suddenly, I'm really starting to feel like rendering again.  Who knew? 

I'm pretty sure several people could have put money on it. ;-)

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scott wrote:
>> I *wish* my cars could display how much fuel was left in some kind of 
>> unit.
> 
> Every car I've driven within the last 5 years tells you how much fuel is 
> left in either km or miles.

Not really. They estimate, and usually with a wide margin for safety. :-) 
But you knew that already.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   The question in today's corporate environment is not
   so much "what color is your parachute?" as it is
   "what color is your nose?"

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On 02/22/10 01:06, scott wrote:
>> dial. In the US they sell fuel by the gallon. (I live in a place where
>> you
>> aren't allowed to fuel your own car.  People get confused if you ever
>> try asking
>> for a certain number of gallons rather than a certain number of
>> "dollars-worth"
>> or "full".)
> 
> Why would you want to put a certain number of gallons into your car?

	Because I don't have to keep track of prices.

	My car is half full. I want it near full. I know the capacity of my
tank, so I have a good guess as to how many gallons I should put in.

	Gas prices vary quite a bit. I don't want to have to do the math every
time to figure out how many $$ I should spend to get the appropriate
amount of gas.

-- 
Lisa: Oedipus killed his father and married his mother.
Homer: Who payed for THAT wedding?

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