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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Why people don't like Star Wars I
Date: 21 Dec 2009 08:23:21
Message: <4b2f76c9$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aoldotcom> wrote:
>> You obviously don?t know what dyslexia is like maybe the old fashion 
>> phrase word blindness is more descriptive.
> 
>   I thought that dyslexia is a disorder which manifests as a difficulty
> in reading. 

That is true but, speaking only for myself, it also shows up when writing.

> While this may increase the time which one nees to learn to
> write properly, I don't see it described as an absolute impediment which
> completely stops the sufferer from learning to write words correctly.

Again in my case, I have difficulty in remembering how to spell words. 


could not remember the spelling. Most irritating. (Strangely it seems 
that my spelling is better when I type as my typing fingers are 
connected differently to my brain than my writing fingers, if that makes 
any sense?)

> (Basically, if the dyslexic person has difficulties in reading a world
> properly and associating letters with sounds, he might learn to write the
> word improperly as well, but I don't see anything in the description of
> dyslexia which would stop him from being able to correct his mistake and
> learn the correct spelling, especially when specifically pointe out.)
> 

That is because you are normal(ish) ;)

>   I'm certainly not saying that Andrew is one of them, but I feel that many
> people use things like dyslexia as a convenient excuse for laziness to
> learn how to write properly.
> 

Yes I agree with you. Many people say that they are dyslexic when they 
have not learned to read or write properly.

>   Is it medically impossible for a dyslexic person to learn to write a
> word like "sequel" correctly? Or is it a question of learning?
> 


I suppose it depends on which medic you speak to :)

>   As I said, one word at a time, if nothing else helps.
> 
>   (Naturally this requires willingness to learn and to better oneself.)
> 

A couple of other things. Every week I was beaten at school with a 
leather belt for my bad spelling. You would think that that would be an 
encouragement to learn to spell correctly. I also have difficulty in 
remembering how to pronounce certain words. If you said one of then to 
me I would be able to use it for a couple of hours then forget how it 

myself.

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Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Why people don't like Star Wars I
Date: 21 Dec 2009 08:35:01
Message: <web.4b2f798355ed18fc412fad2f0@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> wrote:
> could not remember the spelling. Most irritating. (Strangely it seems
> that my spelling is better when I type as my typing fingers are
> connected differently to my brain than my writing fingers, if that makes
> any sense?)

the brain is mysterious and curious device.  I mostly don't remember phone
numbers (not just because they're already in some memory other than mine), but I
remember the sequence of typings I need to go through to call someone.  I'm much
better with spatial configurations than with mere plain sequences.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Why people don't like Star Wars I
Date: 21 Dec 2009 11:20:50
Message: <4b2fa062$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:

> the brain is mysterious and curious device.  I mostly don't remember phone
> numbers (not just because they're already in some memory other than mine), but I
> remember the sequence of typings I need to go through to call someone.  I'm much
> better with spatial configurations than with mere plain sequences.
> 
> 

remember PIN numbers or passwords as my fingers do that on their own. :)

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Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Why people don't like Star Wars I
Date: 21 Dec 2009 16:24:46
Message: <4b2fe79e$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:

> the brain is mysterious and curious device.  I mostly don't remember phone
> numbers (not just because they're already in some memory other than mine), but I
> remember the sequence of typings I need to go through to call someone.  I'm much
> better with spatial configurations than with mere plain sequences.

Oh no, that's quite common. You're legs remember how to walk, your 
fingers remember how to hold a pen, and with sufficient practice, your 
fingers can learn to type numbers even if you can't remember what the 
hell the numbers are. I've seen people pretend to type a number just so 
that they can figure out what the number is.

If you think that's weird, I can play the Widor Toccata despite not 
remembering what the notes are...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Why people don't like Star Wars I
Date: 21 Dec 2009 16:31:31
Message: <4b2fe933@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Oh no, that's quite common. You're legs remember how to walk

  Perhaps reading out loud what you write could help? I'm pretty sure you
don't pronounce "you're" the same as you pronounce "your".

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                                                          - Warp


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Why people don't like Star Wars I
Date: 21 Dec 2009 16:43:36
Message: <4B2FEC06.60203@hotmail.com>
On 21-12-2009 22:31, Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Oh no, that's quite common. You're legs remember how to walk
> 
>   Perhaps reading out loud what you write could help? I'm pretty sure you
> don't pronounce "you're" the same as you pronounce "your".
> 
I am pretty sure he does pronounce them the same, otherwise he would not 
make that mistake.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Why people don't like Star Wars I
Date: 21 Dec 2009 16:58:03
Message: <4b2fef6b@news.povray.org>
andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> On 21-12-2009 22:31, Warp wrote:
> > Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> Oh no, that's quite common. You're legs remember how to walk
> > 
> >   Perhaps reading out loud what you write could help? I'm pretty sure you
> > don't pronounce "you're" the same as you pronounce "your".
> > 
> I am pretty sure he does pronounce them the same, otherwise he would not 
> make that mistake.

  Do British people pronounce "you" and "your" the same way?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Why people don't like Star Wars I
Date: 21 Dec 2009 17:31:29
Message: <4b2ff741$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:

> I am pretty sure he does pronounce them the same, otherwise he would not 
> make that mistake.

Indeed, the pronounciation is pretty similar.

Much like the way every known human pronounces "flower" and "flour" 
identically.

On the other hand, I frequently get "make" and "made" mixed up, for an 
entirely different reason. :-/

Basically I suck at writing...

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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Why people don't like Star Wars I
Date: 21 Dec 2009 17:35:00
Message: <web.4b2ff7db55ed18fce23264650@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> > On 21-12-2009 22:31, Warp wrote:
> > > Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> > >> Oh no, that's quite common. You're legs remember how to walk
> > >
> > >   Perhaps reading out loud what you write could help? I'm pretty sure you
> > > don't pronounce "you're" the same as you pronounce "your".
> > >
> > I am pretty sure he does pronounce them the same, otherwise he would not
> > make that mistake.
>
>   Do British people pronounce "you" and "your" the same way?

Many of us pronounce "you're" and "your" the same, myself included. It's a very
common mistake to get them confused in writing.

(excusable? no. common? yes. ;-)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Why people don't like Star Wars I
Date: 21 Dec 2009 18:03:39
Message: <4b2ffecb$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Oh no, that's quite common. You're legs remember how to walk
> 
>   Perhaps reading out loud what you write could help? I'm pretty sure you
> don't pronounce "you're" the same as you pronounce "your".
> 

That's what I do to remember numbers. Say them out loud so I can hear 
them. That way there are two input paths ;)


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Best Regards,
	Stephen


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