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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:46:35 -0500, Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:21:29 -0500, Warp wrote:
>
>> >> that's what the mascot does all of the time - yet he gets chastized
>> >> from time to time ;-)
>> >
>> > He presents puzzles for people to think about?
>
>> Sure, just many of them have to do with his personal life. ;-)
>
> Like this? "you sit down and your trousers are no longer able to
> contain
> the mass of your thighs. o_O"
Sure, why not? It's not a difficult puzzle (need larger trousers).
> Maybe I *don't* want to think about it...
That's your choice. ;-)
Jim
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>> After spending almost an hour watching this,
>
> Eh... are you not supposed to be working?
Oh, uh, yeah, probably...
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Darren New escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> right mouse button click (RMB) - selects
>> left mouse button click (LMB) - changes location of 3D cursor
>
> And I think that there pretty much sums up why people think Blender's
> interface sucks. :-)
Heard about that before. No big deal, though.
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>> So far I can't figure out how to even change the 3D view. :-|
>
> Clearly it's impossible, then. <scnr>
I'd be surprised if that's the case. (Although it might be; maybe you
have to change mode or something if you want other 3D views? It's
plausible.)
Actually, it turns out you just have to use the middle... mouse...
button... Oh dear.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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>> right mouse button click (RMB) - selects
>> left mouse button click (LMB) - changes location of 3D cursor
>
> And I think that there pretty much sums up why people think Blender's
> interface sucks. :-)
What do you mean "people think"?
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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>> Well, now that I have VMware, I thought I might do that, just for a
>> giggle.
>
> Why would you need VMware to run Blender?
Because using VMware, I can install whatever I want without having to
fill out a form recording what I installed, the date I installed it, the
exact product version, and the reason for installing it.
Because it's only a VM, I'm not "really" installing Blender, so I don't
have to record it.
>> Clearly I'm going to have to sit down and do a whole crapload of
>> reading before I can start doing anything interesting with Blender.
>
> http://www.blender.org/education-help/tutorials/
> http://www.blender.org/education-help/video-tutorials/
> http://blenderunderground.com/video-tutorials/
>
> The one with the mantis is also good, at least if you have sound.
I watched it, but without sound. I doubt I'd understand it even *with*
sound. I need to first spend some time figuring out Blender's
abstractions, basic UI conventions, workflow, etc. before I can even
*think* about anything more complex than rendering an equilateral triangle.
> One thing you need to watch out for when going through Blender tutorials
> is that they were mostly made with older versions of Blender. The
> interface seems to change in peculiar ways even between minor version
> bumps, so keyboard shortcuts and such are sometimes different from what
> a tutorial claims.
Oh, that's nice. So, it's like living in a house where the architects
constantly move stuff around? :-}
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Orchid XP v8 escreveu:
>>> right mouse button click (RMB) - selects
>>> left mouse button click (LMB) - changes location of 3D cursor
>>
>> And I think that there pretty much sums up why people think Blender's
>> interface sucks. :-)
>
> What do you mean "people think"?
was any of it any helpful at all? Or should I just put you on a
killfile for insistent, unreasonable dumb behaviour?
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nemesis wrote:
> was any of it any helpful at all?
Ask me *after* I have Blender installed on this box...
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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:29:26 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> So far I can't figure out how to even change the 3D view. :-|
>>
>> Clearly it's impossible, then. <scnr>
>
> I'd be surprised if that's the case. (Although it might be; maybe you
> have to change mode or something if you want other 3D views? It's
> plausible.)
>
> Actually, it turns out you just have to use the middle... mouse...
> button... Oh dear.
I was just poking a little fun at you (which you've probably figured out
anyways), because you have a penchant for saying "that's impossible" when
it's just something you don't know about or how to do. ;-)
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> You need to stop conflating "they don't seem to 'do' very much" with "I
> don't know how to make them do complex operations". These two statements
> are not equivalent.
Well, I don't know. Something like DPaint, you open it up and there's a
trillion options staring right at you. And when you start to dig into
it, there's even more stuff below the surface. You could spend years
just reading the user manual. (It comes with a paper user manual, by the
way.)
Open the GIMP, and there doesn't seem to be much there. There's, like, a
million ways to select an image region, but once you selected it, all
you can do to it is clone it or apply a filter to it. Big deal.
Now surely there's more to it than that (who the hell would bother
developing such a big piece of software just to apply an emboss
effect?), but it's not very apparent from the UI. It appears you have to
somehow combine the features in highly non-obvious ways to make it do
anything interesting.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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