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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:00:08 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> I guess it's similar to the way that tools like Photoshop or The GIMP as
> supposed to be these all-powerful imagine manipulation tools, yet they
> don't seem to "do" very much.
You need to stop conflating "they don't seem to 'do' very much" with "I
don't know how to make them do complex operations". These two statements
are not equivalent.
Jim
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:43:12 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> So far I can't figure out how to even change the 3D view. :-|
Clearly it's impossible, then. <scnr>
Jim
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Invisible escreveu:
> Clearly I'm going to have to sit down and do a whole crapload of reading
> before I can start doing anything interesting with Blender.
here's some quick tips:
ctrl+x - starts a new scene from scratch
esc - cancels things out
space - calls the main menu
right mouse button click (RMB) - selects
left mouse button click (LMB) - changes location of 3D cursor
a - selects all or none
s - scale
r - rotate
g - grab an object so you may move it around
c - center scene
navigating through 3D space:
numeric keyboard:
1 - front view
7 - top view
3 - side view
use together with shift to get to the other sides
del/, - focus on selected object
with the mouse:
alt+LMB - rotate the scene around by moving the mouse
alt+shift+LMB - grab the scene around by moving the mouse
(under X in Linux you may need to add the "Windows" button to the
configuration above)
mouse wheel - zoom
tab - changes between normal object mode, where you place and manipulate
objects (primitives), and mesh editing mode where you
now, when you are in mesh edit mode, to edit, say, the default cube:
ctrl+tab - changes between vertice, edge or face mode
now, here's a first lesson to you:
1) ctrl+x to create a new scene
2) cube is already selected so tab to enter mesh edit mode
3) input this: s (scale) y (restricted to y axis) then move the mouse
until its reasonably thin in y axis
4) a to deselect all
5) ctrl+tab and select face mode
6) ctrl+space and select "Enable/Disable" so it doesn't get in the way
7) select the right face (you may zoom in a bit to make it clearer)
8) alt+shift(+Windows)+LMB and drag the cube to the left corner of the
screen
9) ok, right face selected all you do now is extrude it in the xy plane
with ctrl+LMB clicks.
You may trace it along funky paths in the xy plane (as default view is
top view in the z axis) as long as the steps are about same length as
the original cube.
now:
10) tab to exit mesh edit mode
11) F9 -> Modifiers panel down there -> Add Modifier -> Level 3
12) In the Link and Materials panel to the left, click Set Smooth down there
13) in the numeric numeric keypad, hit 5 to enter perspective mode (5
again to go back to orthographic)
14) drag your scene around with alt+shift+LMB, zoom with mouse wheel and
rotate with alt+shift+LMB to get the "belt" centered on screen
15) once you're satisfied with it, hit ctrl+alt+0 to get the camera set
in this position
16) F8 -> World ajust the default black blue sky to a color of your liking
17) in the panel just next to it, click on the Amb Occ tab and turn on
Ambient Occlusion (default settings ok)
18) hit F12 to render with default settings
if you're curious how to manage that mesh from now on, here's the tip:
1) select the belt with RMB and go back to edit mode with tab
2) a until everything deselected
3) ctrl+tab to select edge mode
4) alt+RMB in one of the top edges to select a whole edge loop
edge loops, extrusions, loop cuts... that's how you manage complexity.
There's so much more to tell, but you'd be overwhelmed this way. anyway:
F6 goes to the material panels. ctrl+e gives you the very useful edge
loop tools. In mesh edit mode, e extrudes and ctrl+r loop cuts (mouse
wheel or numeric argument for number of cuts while in preview).
Sometimes numbers can be used with some commands, like s+shift+y+5 to
scale 5 times in the xz plane (shift+y).
--
a game sig: http://tinyurl.com/d3rxz9
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:39:53 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>
> After spending almost an hour watching this,
Eh... are you not supposed to be working?
--
FE
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:43:12 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>
> Well, now that I have VMware, I thought I might do that, just for a
> giggle.
Why would you need VMware to run Blender?
> Clearly I'm going to have to sit down and do a whole crapload of reading
> before I can start doing anything interesting with Blender.
http://www.blender.org/education-help/tutorials/
http://www.blender.org/education-help/video-tutorials/
http://blenderunderground.com/video-tutorials/
The one with the mantis is also good, at least if you have sound.
One thing you need to watch out for when going through Blender tutorials
is that they were mostly made with older versions of Blender. The
interface seems to change in peculiar ways even between minor version
bumps, so keyboard shortcuts and such are sometimes different from what a
tutorial claims.
--
FE
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errata:
read
11) F9 -> Modifiers panel down there -> Add Modifier -> Level 3
as
11) F9 -> Modifiers panel down there -> Add Modifier -> Subsurf -> Level 3
nemesis escreveu:
> Invisible escreveu:
>> Clearly I'm going to have to sit down and do a whole crapload of
>> reading before I can start doing anything interesting with Blender.
>
> here's some quick tips:
> ctrl+x - starts a new scene from scratch
> esc - cancels things out
> space - calls the main menu
> right mouse button click (RMB) - selects
> left mouse button click (LMB) - changes location of 3D cursor
> a - selects all or none
> s - scale
> r - rotate
> g - grab an object so you may move it around
> c - center scene
>
> navigating through 3D space:
> numeric keyboard:
> 1 - front view
> 7 - top view
> 3 - side view
> use together with shift to get to the other sides
> del/, - focus on selected object
>
> with the mouse:
> alt+LMB - rotate the scene around by moving the mouse
> alt+shift+LMB - grab the scene around by moving the mouse
> (under X in Linux you may need to add the "Windows" button to the
> configuration above)
> mouse wheel - zoom
>
> tab - changes between normal object mode, where you place and manipulate
> objects (primitives), and mesh editing mode where you
>
> now, when you are in mesh edit mode, to edit, say, the default cube:
> ctrl+tab - changes between vertice, edge or face mode
>
>
> now, here's a first lesson to you:
>
> 1) ctrl+x to create a new scene
>
> 2) cube is already selected so tab to enter mesh edit mode
>
> 3) input this: s (scale) y (restricted to y axis) then move the mouse
> until its reasonably thin in y axis
>
> 4) a to deselect all
>
> 5) ctrl+tab and select face mode
>
> 6) ctrl+space and select "Enable/Disable" so it doesn't get in the way
>
> 7) select the right face (you may zoom in a bit to make it clearer)
>
> 8) alt+shift(+Windows)+LMB and drag the cube to the left corner of the
> screen
>
> 9) ok, right face selected all you do now is extrude it in the xy plane
> with ctrl+LMB clicks.
>
> You may trace it along funky paths in the xy plane (as default view is
> top view in the z axis) as long as the steps are about same length as
> the original cube.
>
> now:
>
> 10) tab to exit mesh edit mode
>
> 11) F9 -> Modifiers panel down there -> Add Modifier -> Level 3
>
> 12) In the Link and Materials panel to the left, click Set Smooth down
> there
>
> 13) in the numeric numeric keypad, hit 5 to enter perspective mode (5
> again to go back to orthographic)
>
> 14) drag your scene around with alt+shift+LMB, zoom with mouse wheel and
> rotate with alt+shift+LMB to get the "belt" centered on screen
>
> 15) once you're satisfied with it, hit ctrl+alt+0 to get the camera set
> in this position
>
> 16) F8 -> World ajust the default black blue sky to a color of your liking
>
> 17) in the panel just next to it, click on the Amb Occ tab and turn on
> Ambient Occlusion (default settings ok)
>
> 18) hit F12 to render with default settings
>
> if you're curious how to manage that mesh from now on, here's the tip:
> 1) select the belt with RMB and go back to edit mode with tab
> 2) a until everything deselected
> 3) ctrl+tab to select edge mode
> 4) alt+RMB in one of the top edges to select a whole edge loop
>
> edge loops, extrusions, loop cuts... that's how you manage complexity.
>
> There's so much more to tell, but you'd be overwhelmed this way. anyway:
>
> F6 goes to the material panels. ctrl+e gives you the very useful edge
> loop tools. In mesh edit mode, e extrudes and ctrl+r loop cuts (mouse
> wheel or numeric argument for number of cuts while in preview).
> Sometimes numbers can be used with some commands, like s+shift+y+5 to
> scale 5 times in the xz plane (shift+y).
>
--
a game sig: http://tinyurl.com/d3rxz9
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Warp wrote:
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> More importantly, what did we learn from this and why did you, warp,
>> post this?
>
> Does everything have to have a reason behind it? Can't things be done just
> for the fun of it?
>
that's what the mascot does all of the time - yet he gets chastized from
time to time ;-)
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Tom Austin <taustin> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> >> More importantly, what did we learn from this and why did you, warp,
> >> post this?
> >
> > Does everything have to have a reason behind it? Can't things be done just
> > for the fun of it?
> that's what the mascot does all of the time - yet he gets chastized from
> time to time ;-)
He presents puzzles for people to think about?
--
- Warp
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:21:29 -0500, Warp wrote:
>> that's what the mascot does all of the time - yet he gets chastized
>> from time to time ;-)
>
> He presents puzzles for people to think about?
Sure, just many of them have to do with his personal life. ;-)
Jim
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nemesis wrote:
> right mouse button click (RMB) - selects
> left mouse button click (LMB) - changes location of 3D cursor
And I think that there pretty much sums up why people think Blender's
interface sucks. :-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Human nature dictates that toothpaste tubes spend
much longer being almost empty than almost full.
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