nemesis wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> and, of course, ping pong = ping pong ;-)
> 
> I also tend to think they pronounce it exactly like that, 

"Ping pong" is the chinese name for table tennis.  We use the chinese name 
for the sport outside of china.


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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> and, of course, ping pong = ping pong ;-)
> >
> > I also tend to think they pronounce it exactly like that,
>
> "Ping pong" is the chinese name for table tennis.  We use the chinese name
> for the sport outside of china.

I thought it was merely onomatopoeic.

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nemesis wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> nemesis wrote:
>>> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>>> and, of course, ping pong = ping pong ;-)
>>> I also tend to think they pronounce it exactly like that,
>> "Ping pong" is the chinese name for table tennis.  We use the chinese name
>> for the sport outside of china.
> 
> I thought it was merely onomatopoeic.

The chinese seem to be big on names for things that are also onomatopoetic. 
Also, when outside names are introduced (like "Coca cola") they tend to get 
translated into written characters that have the same sound but an 
appropriate meaning (like "tastes good" or some such).

It's really pretty cool.

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> Yup. At least in football, you (the player, not the team) lose the play if 
> you hold up the game for an injury. You're not allowed to say "I'm hurt, 
> hold on, ok, I'm ready."

In soccer I think this is totally ridiculous - sometimes you see really 
stupid things like someone actually getting kicked/elbowed/whatever (where a 
normal person might clutch their leg/arm/chest and say "wtf"), then there's 
a two second pause until they realise they better look a bit more injured, 
fall to ground and start rolling around like they've just been stabbed. 
After the massive fuss is over they limp for a few steps then just carry on 
running normally.

> Yeah. I've been looking at a lot of different sports lately. I like 
> football best because it's very physical, yet there's also a lot of 
> planning. In soccer and basketball, there's a lot of action, but I don't 
> think people stop and say "Ok, in this next one, you pretend to pass to 
> joe, but actually kick it backwards to Sam, who can run around to the left 
> and then fire it over to Bill."  That sort of thing happens all the time 
> in american football. There doesn't seem to be any "clever" in baseball, 
> soccer, or basketball. Lots of quick decisions and activity, but no 
> "clever." At least not that I see.

In soccer that kind of clever team planning only really happen when there is 
time to stop and group together to discuss, usually before a free kick near 
the opponent's goal.

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scott wrote:
>> Yup. At least in football, you (the player, not the team) lose the 
>> play if you hold up the game for an injury. You're not allowed to say 
>> "I'm hurt, hold on, ok, I'm ready."
> 
> In soccer I think this is totally ridiculous 

I've even seen clips where it's obvious the person wasn't touched at all, 
from certain camera angles, and they still fall down and roll around.

I figure it's part of the game, like running down the clock in american 
football.

> In soccer that kind of clever team planning only really happen when 
> there is time to stop and group together to discuss, usually before a 
> free kick near the opponent's goal.

Exactly. American football can drag out with the planning, but i think the 
individual plays are more exciting, and pretty much everyone on both teams 
does something vital on every play.

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