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Invisible wrote:
>>> You go to some jobs website. You click the button that says "apply",
>>> and it tells you "your CV has been forwarded".
>>
>> Fail! You should check and double check the job description and
>> update your CV to match before applying to each job.
>
> 1. Most of these websites don't allow you to do that. (You can only have
> one version of your CV - or sometimes 3 or something.)
>
Poo! You don’t use the CV registered on the website. You upload a fresh one.
> 2. I don't have time to write thousands of custom versions of my CV.
>
You do it as the jobs appear and as for time. How long to you spend here?
> 3. Usually the jobs I'm applying for are so tangentally related to what
> I'm actually after that it's dubious that I *could* make my CV look any
> more relevant than it already does (i.e., not very).
>
Keep trying and one might work.
>> Simply sending an exact copy of the same CV to everywhere that sounds
>> interesting is a recipe for failure.
>
> I don't have a lot of choice here. It took *months* to get my CV to the
> stage it's at now. God only knows how long it would take to customise it
> for every single job I've ever applied for. And it would be just my luck
> that I'd end up missing out important information or adding spelling
> mistakes. By having only one CV, I can work on making it a very strong
> CV. By having millions, I dilute that effort.
>
Why not listen to people who apply for and get jobs? Hmm. :)
>>> You never hear back. What else can you do?
>>
Phone the agency even if it is on the pretext of ensuring that they got
your CV.
That’s what I do.
>
> We're talking about the investment branch of Lloyds TSB, in the
> financial district of London. I doubt they're short of applicants.
>
In the hotel where I am staying in Chester there are a couple of long
term residents who are training new starts for Lloyds TSB. So there must
be a demand for the training.
--
Best Regards,
Stephen
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Invisible wrote:
> Well Warp seems fairly convinced that I'm a rubbish programmer - and,
> AFAIK, he's the only person here who writes programs for a living.
*snort*
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Human nature dictates that toothpaste tubes spend
much longer being almost empty than almost full.
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Invisible wrote:
> Clearly jobs don't find you. (Unless you're ludicrously talented and
> very well-known. I am neither.)
Or unless you know people who deal with lots of people. I get jobs for
people all the time, and vice versa. If I was impressed working with you,
I'll recommend you to people looking to hire. The same as any other brand. :-)
> They just said "we feel that the other applications have more relevant
> skills".
Be aware that even if you're the perfect fit for the job, *with* a PhD and
30 years experience, this is *still* how it works. 90% of the time you hear
nothing back. Of the rest, 90% of the time it's an instant rejection. And
that's for jobs that practically list you by name.
If you want a new job, send three or four resumes a day for a month.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Human nature dictates that toothpaste tubes spend
much longer being almost empty than almost full.
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Invisible wrote:
> Monster currently sends me one email roughly every 6 months containing
> one not-very-relevant job vacancy.
I have the best luck with craigslist.
http://london.craigslist.co.uk/sof/
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Human nature dictates that toothpaste tubes spend
much longer being almost empty than almost full.
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Darren New wrote:
> If you want a new job, send three or four resumes a day for a month.
Simply discovering three or four jobs *per month* that I can actually
apply for would be a significant feat, BTH.
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Invisible wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>
>> If you want a new job, send three or four resumes a day for a month.
>
> Simply discovering three or four jobs *per month* that I can actually
> apply for would be a significant feat, BTH.
That's why we keep telling you to GTFO of MK.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Human nature dictates that toothpaste tubes spend
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Well Warp seems fairly convinced that I'm a rubbish programmer
Actually I think you are paranoid.
> - and,
> AFAIK, he's the only person here who writes programs for a living.
That would be quite surprising.
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- Warp
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On 2-12-2009 10:41, Invisible wrote:
>> What you've demonstrated here is a fair amount of skill. Experience
>> comes with time. Nobody leaves school or their first job with massive
>> amounts of experience.
>
> Well Warp seems fairly convinced that I'm a rubbish programmer
I am not sure how he could say that (or even if he did) from the small
snippets of code that you posted. I think there are many sides to a
programmer, I'd rather not judge them just based on some lines they wrote.
> - and, AFAIK, he's the only person here who writes programs for a living.
Which mainly shows that you don't really pay attention to what other
people say. ;)
> My total inability to spell properly is the stuff of legend.
Mainly because you forget to use and/or install a spelling checker.
Again writing has many more sides than spelling alone.
> I'm pretty
> hopeless with mathematics too... What makes you think I have skills?
At least you are trying.
>> Bingo, that's my point. Some people can't expect to be employed near
>> where they live because where they live may not be near the jobs
>> they're able to do.
>
> Erm... like I say, I don't know of anybody who had to move just to find
> work.
Is that not simply equivalent to: 'I don't know anybody'?
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On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:26:59 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>>> One guy told me that Hell's Angels are "actually really friendly
>>> people". But I don't know whether that's actually true...
>>
>> It is, in my experience.
>
> Oh, fair enough.
>
> Certainly bikers have a reputation for being the sort of thungs who'll
> rip your arms out of their sockets just for looking at them wrong. But
> as we all know, reputations are always founded on solid facts... ;-)
Absolutely. ;-)
Jim
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>> - and, AFAIK, he's the only person here who writes programs for a living.
>
> Which mainly shows that you don't really pay attention to what other
> people say. ;)
Um... OK. :-S
>> My total inability to spell properly is the stuff of legend.
>
> Mainly because you forget to use and/or install a spelling checker.
> Again writing has many more sides than spelling alone.
[It's not really related to this discussion, but I have tried several
times to get Thunderbird's spell checker to work... Apparently it just
hates me or something.]
>> Erm... like I say, I don't know of anybody who had to move just to
>> find work.
>
> Is that not simply equivalent to: 'I don't know anybody'?
Plausibly.
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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