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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:54:52 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:56:57 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gone! And never called me mother!
>>> Such a shame!
>>>
>>> Jim
>> :(
>
> I'd try to make it up to ya, but I don't think it'd be appreciated. ;-)
>
:P
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Best Regards,
Stephen
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andrel wrote:
> On 3-11-2009 22:02, Stephen wrote:
>> andrel wrote:
>>> On 3-11-2009 19:56, Stephen wrote:
>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:25:42 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game. You could probably do the
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00nf3kr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pete Townshend talks about the influence on his songwriting of
>>>>>> composer
>>>>>> Henry Purcell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unavailable after 13:30 GMT. :(
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a problem, then, just getting to this now. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> Gone! And never called me mother!
>>>>
>>> How should I parse that?
>>>
>>> 1) never called me 'mother'!
>>> 2) never called me. Mother!
>>> 3) never called my mother!
>>>
>>> And what does it mean?
>>
>> The lady’s son died before he knew that she was his mother. (Alcoholic
>> poising IIRC) So number 1 is correct.
>> It is from the play of “East Lynne” a sensation novel by Mrs Henry Wood.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Lynne
>
> Today I had a recurring discussion about the use of English in science.
> Someone had submitted a manuscript for correction to a native speaker. A
> number of the suggested corrections were good English but incorrect
> scientific/international English. Which reminded me that sometimes at
> conferences I have trouble understanding some Brits that wrongly assume
> that English is the language of the conference and that therefore can
> use any expression that they know. This would be a typical example.
>
You have mentioned this one or two times before ;)
Because you are from the Lowlands every English speaker expects you to
be fully fluent in several languages. (A complement BTW) But I’m sure
that we won’t go to war over it (again :-P)
> BTW how did Ellen become Henri?
When Miss Ellen Price married Mr. Henry Wood she became known as Mrs.
Henry Wood. This was the accepted practice in England in the early 19th
century (and even later).
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Stephen
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:07:24 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:03:09 -0800, Darren New wrote:
>>
>>> andrel wrote:
>>>> Sure, but how can you know?
>>> You can't. That's what sucks about the Bourne convention.
>>
>> <insert witty comment about Jason Bourne here>
>
> Yeah. Berne. I knew it looked wrong.
LOL, I wasn't even commenting on that (I thought you had it right, it
just struck me funny).
Jim
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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:17:48 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>> I'd try to make it up to ya, but I don't think it'd be appreciated. ;-)
>>
>>
> :P
I see that I was correct in that assessment. ;-)
Jim
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On 3-11-2009 23:03, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> Sure, but how can you know?
>
> You can't. That's what sucks about the Bourne convention.
>
I assume they scan the database for illegal content every now and then.
In that process they could add a flag if they recognize it as something
that is allowed to be there. Perhaps even better, remove it and replace
by a link to an officially uploaded video. What is the point of having
10 'different' versions of the clip of Orinoco Flow?
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On 4-11-2009 6:32, Stephen wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> On 3-11-2009 22:02, Stephen wrote:
>>> andrel wrote:
>>>> On 3-11-2009 19:56, Stephen wrote:
>>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:25:42 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game. You could probably do the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00nf3kr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pete Townshend talks about the influence on his songwriting of
>>>>>>> composer
>>>>>>> Henry Purcell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unavailable after 13:30 GMT. :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a problem, then, just getting to this now. :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> Gone! And never called me mother!
>>>>>
>>>> How should I parse that?
>>>>
>>>> 1) never called me 'mother'!
>>>> 2) never called me. Mother!
>>>> 3) never called my mother!
>>>>
>>>> And what does it mean?
>>>
>>> The lady’s son died before he knew that she was his mother.
>>> (Alcoholic poising IIRC) So number 1 is correct.
>>> It is from the play of “East Lynne” a sensation novel by Mrs Henry Wood.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Lynne
>>
>> Today I had a recurring discussion about the use of English in
>> science. Someone had submitted a manuscript for correction to a native
>> speaker. A number of the suggested corrections were good English but
>> incorrect scientific/international English. Which reminded me that
>> sometimes at conferences I have trouble understanding some Brits that
>> wrongly assume that English is the language of the conference and that
>> therefore can use any expression that they know. This would be a
>> typical example.
>>
>
> You have mentioned this one or two times before ;)
I was afraid so. But if you knew that, why do you cite such obscure
literature without a footnote in an international forum?
> Because you are from the Lowlands every English speaker expects you to
> be fully fluent in several languages. (A complement BTW) But I’m sure
> that we won’t go to war over it (again :-P)
>
>> BTW how did Ellen become Henri?
>
> When Miss Ellen Price married Mr. Henry Wood she became known as Mrs.
> Henry Wood. This was the accepted practice in England in the early 19th
> century (and even later).
It was just that I didn't see him mentioned in the wikipedia page, so
how was I to know?
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Japanese? Quenya I knew, since I own that disc (and the films), but I
> didn't know about Spanish and Loxian (I don't even know where that is
> from - off to Google it - ah, and I have that album too). But where does
> she use Japanese, Spanish, and Welsh?
Japanese - Sumiregusa, track 7 on A Day without Rain (originally used in
a commercial for Fujitsu a year or so earlier iirc)
Spanish - La Soñadora, track 10 on The Memory of Trees
Welsh - Dan y Dŵr, track 14 on Enya/The Celts
--
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...and a bit of French in Only If... on Paint the Sky with Stars
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andrel wrote:
>>
>> You have mentioned this one or two times before ;)
>
> I was afraid so. But if you knew that, why do you cite such obscure
> literature without a footnote in an international forum?
>
Sorry if I caused you any distress Andrel.
I wrote it because I was replying to Jim and this is Off Topic ;)
When I am at work and writing for my German and Dutch colleagues, I use
clear English but in a social situation I don’t always. I actually
thought that the phrase was quite well known but after doing a straw
poll at work I stand corrected. The only person I asked who had heard it
was the office cleaner and she has a degree in fine arts.
But look on the bright side your knowledge of English Victorian
literature has increased and at the next garden party you attend you can
astound all and sundry.
>>> BTW how did Ellen become Henri?
>>
>> When Miss Ellen Price married Mr. Henry Wood she became known as Mrs.
>> Henry Wood. This was the accepted practice in England in the early
>> 19th century (and even later).
> It was just that I didn't see him mentioned in the wikipedia page, so
> how was I to know?
I was a bit surprised it wasn’t mentioned in Wikipedia, either. But that
is Wikipedia for you. It is not the be all and end all :)
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Stephen
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> poll at work I stand corrected. The only person I asked who had heard it
> was the office cleaner and she has a degree in fine arts.
Must be quite an office if the cleaning is seen as a fine art ;-)
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