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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Finland-Broadband-Legal-Right,8858.html#xtor=RSS-181
My first question, of course, is how this will be paid for :)
If it's merely a mandate that access must be available, then companies
will make it available and charge an arm and a leg for it. This is
probably how we would do it in the US :(
Anybody have more details?
...Chambers
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Chambers <Ben### [at] gmail com> wrote:
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Finland-Broadband-Legal-Right,8858.html#xtor=RSS-181
> My first question, of course, is how this will be paid for :)
Taxpayers pay everything in Finland. (Why do you think taxes are so high
here?)
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- Warp
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On 16-10-2009 17:33, Chambers wrote:
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Finland-Broadband-Legal-Right,8858.html#xtor=RSS-181
We are not this far, though effectively 80 or 90% (I don't have the
right statistics at hand) of the population has access to broadband anyway.
The postoffice has an obligation here to deliver the mail to everybody.
(which is a problem if you allow competition at the same time because
the most obvious way to decrease costs is to deliver only in big
cities). This is the same sort of arrangement.
> My first question, of course, is how this will be paid for :)
In the end the consumer, but I guess that the idea will be to have
companies do a bid to be able to offer broadband and only getting this
if they also make sure they can deliver to anybody anywhere in Finland.
> If it's merely a mandate that access must be available, then companies
> will make it available and charge an arm and a leg for it. This is
> probably how we would do it in the US :(
Any reasonable parliament understands that and includes that cost should
be equal to everybody. In a sense people in Helsinki and Tampere pay
for the people in remote areas.
> Anybody have more details?
No, just guessing ;)
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andrel wrote:
> The postoffice has an obligation here to deliver the mail to everybody.
> (which is a problem if you allow competition at the same time because
> the most obvious way to decrease costs is to deliver only in big
> cities). This is the same sort of arrangement.
Sounds like the arrangement we had in the USA for telephone service before
the monopoly got broken up. "You provide service for everyone at a rate we
set, and you get to exclude competition that would make you unable to make a
profit at that rate." Then MCI sets up long distance calls anyway, Bell
sues MCI for violating their monopoly agreement with the feds, MCI
successfully argues that with digital and microwaves it doesn't need
centralized control any more, Bell Systems gets broken into AT&T Long
Distance and the seven regional companies.
Then it gets screwed, because the feds say "the regional companies still
have to provide service to everyone, but Bell also have to rent their
equipment to competitors at the same rate as Bell pay to obtain it, and the
competitors get to cherry-pick their customers."
Our post office has competition, but the post office is the only entity
allowed to put mail in your mailbox (rather than, say, on the step or in a
different box), and that's the only kind of mail valid for some sorts of
stuff (like sending bills).
I think France had global service availability with Minitel many decades
ago, too.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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TC <do-not-reply@i-do get-enough-spam-already-2498.com> wrote:
> Current temperature in Utsjoki, Finland: -4?C ;-)
Sounds like a refreshing day for a long walk. :)
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On 10/16/2009 3:19 PM, Warp wrote:
> TC<do-not-reply@i-do get-enough-spam-already-2498.com> wrote:
>> Current temperature in Utsjoki, Finland: -4?C ;-)
>
> Sounds like a refreshing day for a long walk. :)
>
That seems quite cool to me. I'll stay indoors, sipping my hot
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~Mike
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TC wrote:
> Current temperature in Utsjoki, Finland: -4°C ;-)
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You mean that's warm?
Well, it would be, if it was February. On this time of year it feels
pretty cool.
-Aero
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On 10/16/2009 3:36 PM, Darren New wrote:
> Then it gets screwed, because the feds say "the regional companies still
> have to provide service to everyone, but Bell also have to rent their
> equipment to competitors at the same rate as Bell pay to obtain it, and
> the competitors get to cherry-pick their customers."
I was about to make a comparison with certain private military
contractors that got into trouble in Iraq recently, but decided not to.
Mike
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Chambers wrote:
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Finland-Broadband-Legal-Right,8858.html#xtor=RSS-181
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> My first question, of course, is how this will be paid for :)
By those who lack the political connections to avoid it.
Regards,
John
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