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scott wrote:
>>>> NNTP doesn't have an "order".
>>>
>>> How can threads be sticky then?
>>
>> By reposting them at intervals shorter than the expiration date.
>
> Sticky means they stick in place - not that they don't expire.
Then that would be up to your client, wouldn't it?
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:15:39 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> scott wrote:
>> If you post a FAQ to an NNTP group, every time someone posts a new
>> thread the FAQ will move down one place - that is not sticky!
>
> NNTP doesn't have an "order".
Actually, it does. Each message is uniquely identified with a message ID
and a date stamp, and on the server the headers are served up in
numerical order.
Jim
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:32:22 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> scott wrote:
>>>>> NNTP doesn't have an "order".
>>>>
>>>> How can threads be sticky then?
>>>
>>> By reposting them at intervals shorter than the expiration date.
>>
>> Sticky means they stick in place - not that they don't expire.
>
> Then that would be up to your client, wouldn't it?
Only if your client caches the articles. Not all clients do.
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:32:22 -0700, Darren New wrote:
>
>> scott wrote:
>>>>>> NNTP doesn't have an "order".
>>>>> How can threads be sticky then?
>>>> By reposting them at intervals shorter than the expiration date.
>>> Sticky means they stick in place - not that they don't expire.
>> Then that would be up to your client, wouldn't it?
> Only if your client caches the articles. Not all clients do.
But that would be up to the server to cache the article. That's why it gets
reposted before it expires.
Look, back in NNTP days, everyone knew to look for the FAQ in the subject
lines. Nowadays on web forums, they know to look for the FAQ in sticky
posts. It's not enough of a difference to make any difference.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:43:46 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:32:22 -0700, Darren New wrote:
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>>> scott wrote:
>>>>>>> NNTP doesn't have an "order".
>>>>>> How can threads be sticky then?
>>>>> By reposting them at intervals shorter than the expiration date.
>>>> Sticky means they stick in place - not that they don't expire.
>>> Then that would be up to your client, wouldn't it?
>> Only if your client caches the articles. Not all clients do.
>
> But that would be up to the server to cache the article. That's why it
> gets reposted before it expires.
>
> Look, back in NNTP days, everyone knew to look for the FAQ in the
> subject lines. Nowadays on web forums, they know to look for the FAQ in
> sticky posts. It's not enough of a difference to make any difference.
It makes a difference to people not versed in NNTP. That's the point
that's being made.
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> It makes a difference to people not versed in NNTP. That's the point
> that's being made.
And people not versed in web forums won't look through the sticky threads to
see what they want, either. Trust me, nothing will make someone read a FAQ
before asking a stupid question.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:13:16 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> It makes a difference to people not versed in NNTP. That's the point
>> that's being made.
>
> And people not versed in web forums won't look through the sticky
> threads to see what they want, either. Trust me, nothing will make
> someone read a FAQ before asking a stupid question.
People not versed in web forums who visit web forums will see the sticky
messages first when they enter the forum. I only recently started using
them myself, but I learned very quickly that I want to look at the
stickies before asking any question.
There are some people who never will read the FAQ, just like there are
some people who will never use Google to try to search first. That
doesn't mean that things that call attention to the FAQ are useless.
People who use NNTP stand a far better chance of reading stickies than
people who don't use NNTP or e-mail lists are to look back through old
messages for answers to their questions. NNTP users tend to be more
technically saavy and also tend to (but not always) do their homework
before asking a question.
Jim
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On 10/15/09 15:26, Jim Henderson wrote:
> People not versed in web forums who visit web forums will see the sticky
> messages first when they enter the forum. I only recently started using
> them myself, but I learned very quickly that I want to look at the
> stickies before asking any question.
Unless there are too many. I'd say more than 3 and it loses its effect.
How did you learn to look at the stickies before asking a question?
--
Row, row, row your bits, gently down the stream...
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