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From: Warp
Subject: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 12 Sep 2009 16:54:01
Message: <4aac0a69@news.povray.org>
Damn that Linux with its 3% market share...

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/microsoft-teaches-best-buy-employees-how-to-troll-linux-users.ars

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From: gregjohn
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 12 Sep 2009 18:00:00
Message: <web.4aac18cacaf8180c34d207310@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Damn that Linux with its 3% market share...
>
>
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/microsoft-teaches-best-buy-employees-how-to-troll-linux-users.ars
>


I bet Windows7 will never drop support for video or wifi drivers with an upgrade
for ideological (RMS) reasons.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 12 Sep 2009 18:14:09
Message: <4aac1d31$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   Damn that Linux with its 3% market share...

I like how they list "change of pace" with "familiarity" on the same slide.

Other than that, I'm kind of surprised it's not worse propaganda than it is. 
I.e., I'm a bit surprised there aren't outright lies in the whole thing, 
rather than just slanted and one-sided facts.

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 12 Sep 2009 22:55:01
Message: <web.4aac5ed8caf8180cbe620a280@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Damn that Linux with its 3% market share...
>
>
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/microsoft-teaches-best-buy-employees-how-to-troll-linux-users.ars
>
> --
>                                                           - Warp

"familiarity", "peace of mind"... LOL

BTW, OpenOffice beats down the new MS Office in familiarity factor...

here in Brazil it's the same thing:  vendors are instructed to scare buyers away
from Linux PCs or at the very least offer an unofficial Windows install as an
after-sales courtesy... it's so friggin' pathetic seeing such a huge coward
monster...


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 12 Sep 2009 23:48:10
Message: <4aac6b7a$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> "familiarity", "peace of mind"... LOL

Why is that funny?

> BTW, OpenOffice beats down the new MS Office in familiarity factor...

Sort of. The new office is easier to use tho.

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 12 Sep 2009 23:50:45
Message: <4aac6c15$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
>> BTW, OpenOffice beats down the new MS Office in familiarity factor...
> Sort of. The new office is easier to use tho.

BTW, did you see the designs for the "ribbon" interface?

http://www.geek.com/articles/news/openoffice-experiments-with-a-ribbon-interface-20090812/

The difference, of course, is that OO developers are going to guess how the 
ribbon should be designed, and MS actually spent years looking over the use 
patterns of 14 million users to decide.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 13 Sep 2009 00:00:01
Message: <web.4aac6dc7caf8180cbe620a280@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > "familiarity", "peace of mind"... LOL
>
> Why is that funny?

It's the politically correct tone, or something like that.  But mostly because I
almost could listen to Phil Hartman reading the slides in his "anal retentive"
tone and smiling face... :)

marketeers...


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 13 Sep 2009 01:05:03
Message: <4aac7d7f@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> nemesis wrote:
>>> "familiarity", "peace of mind"... LOL
>> Why is that funny?
> 
> It's the politically correct tone, or something like that.

Ah, OK. Yes, now that you mention it, it's sort of like


SPOILERS FOR THE MOVIE EQUILIBRIUM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbP2djP0h5g#t=2m14s

"Calmly. Cooly. Entirely without incident."


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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 13 Sep 2009 01:10:04
Message: <web.4aac7dcdcaf8180cbe620a280@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> >> BTW, OpenOffice beats down the new MS Office in familiarity factor...
> > Sort of. The new office is easier to use tho.
>
> BTW, did you see the designs for the "ribbon" interface?
>
>
http://www.geek.com/articles/news/openoffice-experiments-with-a-ribbon-interface-20090812/
>
> The difference, of course, is that OO developers are going to guess how the
> ribbon should be designed, and MS actually spent years looking over the use
> patterns of 14 million users to decide.

use patterns of 14 millions users... and somehow got something completely
different and awkward for someone used to the old way...

That's why I prefer vi and emacs:  solid, well-grounded 30+ years interface
design... ;)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 13 Sep 2009 01:14:36
Message: <4aac7fbc$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> use patterns of 14 millions users... and somehow got something completely
> different and awkward for someone used to the old way...

Yet everything I've heard, people like it much better after actually using 
it for a day.

My favorite quote was when the lead designer of the new interface was 
showing it to his wife, and she complained "Why is <whatever> under the view 
tab? That makes no sense." And he answered "Because that's where 97.3% of 
everyone looks for it first." :-)

> That's why I prefer vi and emacs:  solid, well-grounded 30+ years interface
> design... ;)

Yup. I haven't had to retrain my fingers for vi in forever. :-) I used emacs 
for a couple years when I was using a language that had much better 
indenting support under emacs than under vi, and I never did learn to like 
it. But to each his own, of course.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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