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On 09/14/09 10:40, Darren New wrote:
> HP *computers* are generally pretty crappy. HP test equipment is good,
> but the computers themselves are just assembled from whatever cheap
> parts they can buy.
What test equipment? You're not confusing them with Agilent, are you?
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Invisible wrote:
> Given that it took MS something like 8 years to produce Vista, and
> almost nobody has upgraded to *that* yet, I'd be rather surprised if
> Windows 7 turns up any time soon, that's all.
No, they're releasing Win 7 quickly to fix the horrible, horrible
abortion that was Vista.
FWIW, I like Vista.
Speaking of....
I have essentially bricked a Vista machine. I installed drivers for a
Keningston wireless keyboard and mouse. Now it won't recognise that, or
even a basic mouse or keyboard.
Aside from wiping the hard drive and reinstalling, is there anything I
can do to recover?
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Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 09/14/09 10:40, Darren New wrote:
>> HP *computers* are generally pretty crappy. HP test equipment is good,
>> but the computers themselves are just assembled from whatever cheap
>> parts they can buy.
>
> What test equipment? You're not confusing them with Agilent, are you?
They probably sold that division since last I looked. HP test equipment used
to be up there with tektronics.
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I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> Aside from wiping the hard drive and reinstalling, is there anything I
> can do to recover?
Three things to try:
1) Plug in a USB and/or PS-2 keyboard. Also, make sure "legacy USB" is
turned on in the BIOS - that apparently means "recognise USB keyboards and
map them to something the boot sequence understands without drivers".
2) Boot the install CD and see if the command line will let you turn off the
service that's blocking you or whatever it is.
3) Restore from backups. You *do* have backups, don't you, silly boy? :-)
I usually take an image backup before I do anything that might keep me from
booting the machine. :-)
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Darren New wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
>> Aside from wiping the hard drive and reinstalling, is there anything I
>> can do to recover?
>
> Three things to try:
> 1) Plug in a USB and/or PS-2 keyboard. Also, make sure "legacy USB" is
> turned on in the BIOS - that apparently means "recognise USB keyboards
> and map them to something the boot sequence understands without drivers".
Tried that ... Keyboard is recognized until Windows boots...
Someone suggested a PS/2 keyboard. I'll give that a shot, next.
> 2) Boot the install CD and see if the command line will let you turn off
> the service that's blocking you or whatever it is.
Yeah, I need to see if that will work.
> 3) Restore from backups. You *do* have backups, don't you, silly boy? :-)
Not for this machine, no. Just installed software. No real data, but it
would be a minor inconvenience to have to reinstall windows.
> I usually take an image backup before I do anything that might keep me
> from booting the machine. :-)
Yeah, who would have thought some utility for a keyboard/mouse would
kill a machine ;)
What would be nice is if I could go back to a restore point w/o loading
the offending driver.
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On 09/14/09 12:29, Darren New wrote:
>> What test equipment? You're not confusing them with Agilent, are you?
>
> They probably sold that division since last I looked. HP test equipment
> used to be up there with tektronics.
It's been a long time - about a decade, I think. HP split into HP &
Agilent. All the test/lab equipment went to Agilent. HP kept the
computer stuff.
Essentially, isn't that how HP got started? With test/lab equipment and
not computers? I know in the early years of Agilent, they'd go around
telling everyone that they took the true HP with them.
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> In this case, I suspect it's simply supply and demand. Fewer people buy
> Basic, so it's more expensive.
Wouldn't it be the other way around? If there's no demand, the price gets
lowered.
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> For that matter, why would you even post something like this without at
> least looking it up with a simple google hit?
Are you really surprised by that at this point?
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Warp wrote:
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> Are you really surprised by that at this point?
>
It is what the mascot is famous for, after all..
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Am Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:41:10 +0100 schrieb Invisible:
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> Some of the HP stuff is expandable up to stupid figures like 144GB RAM.
> I have no idea who the hell needs 144GB of RAM,
I'm one of those. And soon I will get such a machine for work. (If anyone
wonders: I'm working in theoretical physics (soft matter) and need those
RAM to store basically 3d density profiles - and calculate them, which is
why it wouldn't be feasible to store them on a harddisk).
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