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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 13 Sep 2009 19:06:30
Message: <4aad7af6@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> nemesis wrote:
>>> Specially when combined with ctags.
>> I could really use a ctags that works with C++ these days. :-(
> 
> http://ctags.sourceforge.net
> 
> never heard of it until seeing it recommended in the vim manual... truthfully
> highly recommended! :)

I'm pretty sure that's the version I'm using, and it works really 
craptasticly for the source files I'm working with. It might just be that 
the source files are so f'ed in organization.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 13 Sep 2009 23:43:03
Message: <4aadbbc7@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> 
> In any case, just so you know, vi vs emacs arguments are a classic
> flamefest.
> 

Yes they are. I was talking about Vi vs Notepad/Metapad/etc ;).

-Aero


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 13 Sep 2009 23:48:37
Message: <4aadbd15$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> 
> I just fired it up, hit F1, and typed "security level for running macros".

With O2k I learned that VBA help is actually pretty good, but while I
could find pretty much anything available easily on E2k and E2k3, I
hadn't yet needed the help on Excel itself. Maybe I should check it on
2007 ;).

> I got an entire tutorial on it, including how to sign code and links to
> things like "how to turn off security warnings permanently" on other pages.

I want the middle option (ask for macros, which are done signed by known
person).

> I'm guessing you're missing the developer tab, which you have to
> explicitly turn on according to the docs.

Might be, I'll need to check that.

There was also some other option I tried to look for, but I can't
remember what it was (I guess I solved that problem quickly by using 2003).

-Aero


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 14 Sep 2009 01:02:45
Message: <nijra5hkef2iitpdcqq0jgjjvn5u9to5ip@4ax.com>
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:06:28 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:

>and it works really craptasticly

LOL, I like it :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 14 Sep 2009 01:40:02
Message: <web.4aadd675caf8180c609bf0b10@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> nemesis wrote:
> >>> Specially when combined with ctags.
> >> I could really use a ctags that works with C++ these days. :-(
> >
> > http://ctags.sourceforge.net
> >
> > never heard of it until seeing it recommended in the vim manual... truthfully
> > highly recommended! :)
>
> I'm pretty sure that's the version I'm using, and it works really
> craptasticly for the source files I'm working with. It might just be that
> the source files are so f'ed in organization.

By default ctags don't generate tags for function prototypes (go figure).  Do
like this to get away with this dumb limitation:
ctags -R --C++-kinds=+p

to view all such options:
ctags -R --list-kinds=C++

hope that helps...


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 14 Sep 2009 10:22:23
Message: <4aae519f$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   Damn that Linux with its 3% market share...
> 
>
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/microsoft-teaches-best-buy-employees-how-to-troll-linux-users.ars
> 

Do they /really/ feel that threatened by Linux?

Granted, I use and like Windows... But, this presentation borders on 
absurd...

-- 
~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 14 Sep 2009 10:25:31
Message: <4aae525b@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> Do they /really/ feel that threatened by Linux?
> 
> Granted, I use and like Windows... But, this presentation borders on 
> absurd...

Does it?

I mean, think about this. How often do you watch TV and see adverts spit 
out completely unsubstantiated claims like "the UK's number one haircare 
product" or "significantly outperforms competing brands"? Most people 
don't pay the slightest bit of attention to this shallow marketing drivel.

Granted, most TV advertisers don't teach Best Buy to scare customers off 
of competing brands... that *is* a little bit suspect. But how many 
Renault dealerships will tell you that BWM cars are unreliable?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 14 Sep 2009 11:21:58
Message: <4aae5f96$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> hope that helps...

Excellent. I'll give that a try!

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 14 Sep 2009 11:23:03
Message: <4aae5fd7$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Granted, most TV advertisers don't teach Best Buy to scare customers off 
> of competing brands... 

Are you sure?

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Microsoft is still at it
Date: 14 Sep 2009 11:29:08
Message: <4aae6144$1@news.povray.org>
>> Granted, most TV advertisers don't teach Best Buy to scare customers 
>> off of competing brands... 
> 
> Are you sure?

Did I qualify that with "most"?

I'm sure shops probably teach their staff to push whatever has the 
biggest profit margin, but I doubt the original manufacturer gets 
directly involved very much.

(Having said that, they day I visited Chappell, the Roland 
representative was in the shop. Oddly enough, I came home with a Boss 
8-track...)


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