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Warp wrote:
> Some people say that they find the intro incomprehensible, or at least
> very hard to understand. I don't know why. I find it quite easy to
> understand.
>
> Two tribes of some pre-human species are having a squirmish about a pond
> of water. Then the loser tribe is hanging around when the weird monolith
> appears, and after touching it they start realizing that they could use
> bones as weapons, and they take the pond back. Cue a transition from a
> bone thrown into the air to a spaceship. Both tools of some kind. The
> inference is rather clear.
Dunno, it seemed rather disconnected from the rest of the film, imo.
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~Mike
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Darren New wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
>> What about the intro? That was, IIRC the only reference to the
>> monolith in the entire movie ...
>
> Huh? No. There's a monolith on the moon, and one on one of saturn's moons.
>
> Maybe I'm just projecting the book into the movie, tho.
>
I don't recall the monolith being on the moon... Then again, I have
slept a few times since seeing the movie, so maybe I'm wrong.
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~Mike
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote:
> I'm completely serious. Just like the official sign for a scuba diver
> having trouble on the surface is to rip off your mask, wave your hands
> around, and splash a bunch, screaming.
The emergency gesture underwater must be one of the most confusing ever:
It's the "thumbs up" gesture.
The gesture which indicates that everything is ok is, not surprisingly,
the "ok" gesture, but the "thumbs up" gesture is also so commonly used for
"everything's ok" in other settings that some people get confused about it.
There was an incident related to this during the filming of one of the
Harry Potter movies. While filming an underwater scene, after the scene
was done, Daniel Radcliffe made the "thums up" gesture to indicate that
everything went perfect. Of course the safety divers around didn't take
any chances and rushed to help him and get him to safety.
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- Warp
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Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Some people say that they find the intro incomprehensible, or at least
> > very hard to understand. I don't know why. I find it quite easy to
> > understand.
> >
> > Two tribes of some pre-human species are having a squirmish about a pond
> > of water. Then the loser tribe is hanging around when the weird monolith
> > appears, and after touching it they start realizing that they could use
> > bones as weapons, and they take the pond back. Cue a transition from a
> > bone thrown into the air to a spaceship. Both tools of some kind. The
> > inference is rather clear.
> Dunno, it seemed rather disconnected from the rest of the film, imo.
Even after the explanation?
I think it fits perfectly within the story. It explains (to a degree)
what the monolith is (ie. some kind of alien device which triggered the
human species to become intelligent). Without that intro the monolith would
be completely unexplained and not related to anything.
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- Warp
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:50:03 -0400, Warp wrote:
> The emergency gesture underwater must be one of the most confusing
> ever:
> It's the "thumbs up" gesture.
I understand what it is that makes it confusing, but it also kinda makes
sense - a "thumbs up" gesture is a way of pointing up, as if to say "I'm
going up" or "I need to surface".
Jim
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:52:56 -0400, Warp wrote:
> I think it fits perfectly within the story. It explains (to a degree)
> what the monolith is (ie. some kind of alien device which triggered the
> human species to become intelligent). Without that intro the monolith
> would be completely unexplained and not related to anything.
Agreed, it's kinda saying "the monolith helped humans evolve before, and
now it's initiating another evolution".
Jim
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:26:21 -0700, Darren New wrote:
>
> > Warp wrote:
> >> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >>> It did end poorly. Indeed, it probably would have been more satisfying
> >>> to just end it with "My god, it's full of stars", and cut out the bits
> >>> after the pyrotechnics reflected in the helmet entirely.
> >>
> >> That line was actually not in the first movie at all. It was in the
> >> book,
> >> and it was put in the sequel movie.
> >
> > I did not know that. :-)
>
> My recollection had been different as well, but Wikipedia confirms this
> (useful list of differences between the film and the book).
I rather like the sequel. Different film entirely, of course, but it retains the
sense of mystery and grandeur. And I just love the final shot - the process
depicted at the start of 2001 is waiting to happen all over again on Europa.
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:05:00 -0400, Bill Pragnell wrote:
> I rather like the sequel. Different film entirely, of course, but it
> retains the sense of mystery and grandeur. And I just love the final
> shot - the process depicted at the start of 2001 is waiting to happen
> all over again on Europa.
Yeah, I liked that as well.
Jim
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> > The emergency gesture underwater must be one of the most confusing
> > ever:
> > It's the "thumbs up" gesture.
> I understand what it is that makes it confusing, but it also kinda makes
> sense - a "thumbs up" gesture is a way of pointing up, as if to say "I'm
> going up" or "I need to surface".
Yes, but couldn't they have chosen a gesture which is *not* commonly used
for "everything's fine" in other situations?
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- Warp
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:21:23 -0400, Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> > The emergency gesture underwater must be one of the most confusing
>> > ever:
>> > It's the "thumbs up" gesture.
>
>> I understand what it is that makes it confusing, but it also kinda
>> makes sense - a "thumbs up" gesture is a way of pointing up, as if to
>> say "I'm going up" or "I need to surface".
>
> Yes, but couldn't they have chosen a gesture which is *not* commonly
> used
> for "everything's fine" in other situations?
Sure, they could have. But they didn't....I could always ask a couple
friends of mine who are divers what the rationale is (if they know).
Jim
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