Warp wrote:

>   What I dislike about the movie is that it's a very good story and it makes
> a lot of sense, up until that craziness at the end. What I dislike about it
> is that the craziness at the end has *no* meaning at all. It's not like the
> writers came up with some kind of deep message and a highly abstract way of

What about the intro? That was, IIRC the only reference to the monolith 
in the entire movie ...

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Darren New wrote:
> scott wrote:
>> pit-lane refuelling fires must have been fun!
> 
> Yes. THe official hand signal a driver uses to indicate he's on fire is
> to run around in circles waving his hands up and down over his head. :-)
> 
No, that's called panicking :-D

John
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Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> wrote:
> Warp wrote:

> >   What I dislike about the movie is that it's a very good story and it makes
> > a lot of sense, up until that craziness at the end. What I dislike about it
> > is that the craziness at the end has *no* meaning at all. It's not like the
> > writers came up with some kind of deep message and a highly abstract way of

> What about the intro? That was, IIRC the only reference to the monolith 
> in the entire movie ...

   Some people say that they find the intro incomprehensible, or at least
very hard to understand. I don't know why. I find it quite easy to
understand.

  Two tribes of some pre-human species are having a squirmish about a pond
of water. Then the loser tribe is hanging around when the weird monolith
appears, and after touching it they start realizing that they could use
bones as weapons, and they take the pond back. Cue a transition from a
bone thrown into the air to a spaceship. Both tools of some kind. The
inference is rather clear.

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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> It did end poorly. Indeed, it probably would have been more satisfying to 
>> just end it with "My god, it's full of stars", and cut out the bits after 
>> the pyrotechnics reflected in the helmet entirely.
> 
>   That line was actually not in the first movie at all. It was in the book,
> and it was put in the sequel movie.

I did not know that. :-)

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Mike Raiford wrote:
> What about the intro? That was, IIRC the only reference to the monolith 
> in the entire movie ...

Huh? No. There's a monolith on the moon, and one on one of saturn's moons.

Maybe I'm just projecting the book into the movie, tho.

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Doctor John wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> scott wrote:
>>> pit-lane refuelling fires must have been fun!
>> Yes. THe official hand signal a driver uses to indicate he's on fire is
>> to run around in circles waving his hands up and down over his head. :-)
>>
> No, that's called panicking :-D

I'm completely serious.  Just like the official sign for a scuba diver 
having trouble on the surface is to rip off your mask, wave your hands 
around, and splash a bunch, screaming.

Just because it's official doesn't mean it has to be illogical. :-)

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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:26:21 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Warp wrote:
>> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>> It did end poorly. Indeed, it probably would have been more satisfying
>>> to just end it with "My god, it's full of stars", and cut out the bits
>>> after the pyrotechnics reflected in the helmet entirely.
>> 
>>   That line was actually not in the first movie at all. It was in the
>>   book,
>> and it was put in the sequel movie.
> 
> I did not know that. :-)

My recollection had been different as well, but Wikipedia confirms this 
(useful list of differences between the film and the book).

Jim

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Warp wrote:

>    Some people say that they find the intro incomprehensible, or at least
> very hard to understand. I don't know why. I find it quite easy to
> understand.
> 
>   Two tribes of some pre-human species are having a squirmish about a pond
> of water. Then the loser tribe is hanging around when the weird monolith
> appears, and after touching it they start realizing that they could use
> bones as weapons, and they take the pond back. Cue a transition from a
> bone thrown into the air to a spaceship. Both tools of some kind. The
> inference is rather clear.

Dunno, it seemed rather disconnected from the rest of the film, imo.

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Darren New wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
>> What about the intro? That was, IIRC the only reference to the 
>> monolith in the entire movie ...
> 
> Huh? No. There's a monolith on the moon, and one on one of saturn's moons.
> 
> Maybe I'm just projecting the book into the movie, tho.
> 

I don't recall the monolith being on the moon... Then again, I have 
slept a few times since seeing the movie, so maybe I'm wrong.


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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> I'm completely serious.  Just like the official sign for a scuba diver 
> having trouble on the surface is to rip off your mask, wave your hands 
> around, and splash a bunch, screaming.

  The emergency gesture underwater must be one of the most confusing ever:
It's the "thumbs up" gesture.

  The gesture which indicates that everything is ok is, not surprisingly,
the "ok" gesture, but the "thumbs up" gesture is also so commonly used for
"everything's ok" in other settings that some people get confused about it.

  There was an incident related to this during the filming of one of the
Harry Potter movies. While filming an underwater scene, after the scene
was done, Daniel Radcliffe made the "thums up" gesture to indicate that
everything went perfect. Of course the safety divers around didn't take
any chances and rushed to help him and get him to safety.

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