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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 626
Date: 21 Aug 2009 14:50:34
Message: <4a8eec79@news.povray.org>
triple_r <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948

  Does anyone know of a fancy trick to get around that uberstupid
"This video is not available in your country due to copyright restrictions"?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: 626
Date: 21 Aug 2009 15:54:20
Message: <4a8efb6c$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:08:55 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> http://www.xkcd.com/626/
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> When will XKCD start being entertaining again? It seems like it's been
> ages...

I laughed at it. :-)  And I'm not a math geek. ;-)

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: 626
Date: 21 Aug 2009 15:54:40
Message: <4a8efb80$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:50:34 -0400, Warp wrote:

> triple_r <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948
> 
>   Does anyone know of a fancy trick to get around that uberstupid
> "This video is not available in your country due to copyright
> restrictions"?

TOR. :-)

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: 626
Date: 21 Aug 2009 15:55:47
Message: <4a8efbc3$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:01:53 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Invisible wrote:
>> When will XKCD start being entertaining again? It seems like it's been
>> ages...
> 
> You didn't get the reference. Notice the sunglasses.

OK, that bit I didn't understand.....

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 626
Date: 22 Aug 2009 14:32:45
Message: <4a9039cd$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> triple_r <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948
> 
>   Does anyone know of a fancy trick to get around that uberstupid
> "This video is not available in your country due to copyright restrictions"?

Yes. Get your country to pass draconian copyright laws that nobody but the 
big media companies think are a good idea. Then we'll let you see our stuff.[1]


On another note, if you're going to write an article about leaked 
copyrighted information, WTF would you post it on youtube to host it?
http://www.getthebigpicture.net/blog/2009/8/22/teaser-trailer-for-inception-leaked-online.html




[1] SCFTHI

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Understanding the structure of the universe
    via religion is like understanding the
     structure of computers via Tron.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 626
Date: 22 Aug 2009 15:06:48
Message: <4a9041c8@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Yes. Get your country to pass draconian copyright laws that nobody but the 
> big media companies think are a good idea. Then we'll let you see our stuff.[1]

  I don't think many countries have more draconian copyright laws than
Finland currently. (Although I hear that Canada is passing, or has already
passed, a copyright law that makes Finland look like the promised land of
global public domain in comparison.)

  Anyways, I don't think it should be that hard to fool youtube to think
you come from another country, by using some kind of anonymizer proxy or
whatever.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: 626
Date: 22 Aug 2009 15:12:14
Message: <4a90430e$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:06:48 -0400, Warp wrote:

>   I don't think many countries have more draconian copyright laws than
> Finland currently. (Although I hear that Canada is passing, or has
> already passed, a copyright law that makes Finland look like the
> promised land of global public domain in comparison.)

I don't know about the laws in Finland, but have you looked at (in depth) 
the US copyright laws?

>   Anyways, I don't think it should be that hard to fool youtube to think
> you come from another country, by using some kind of anonymizer proxy or
> whatever.

It isn't - as I said, TOR (The Onion Router) is good for this.

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 626
Date: 22 Aug 2009 15:30:18
Message: <4a90474a@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:06:48 -0400, Warp wrote:

> >   I don't think many countries have more draconian copyright laws than
> > Finland currently. (Although I hear that Canada is passing, or has
> > already passed, a copyright law that makes Finland look like the
> > promised land of global public domain in comparison.)

> I don't know about the laws in Finland, but have you looked at (in depth) 
> the US copyright laws?

  Not really. The only thing I have heard about the US is RIAA harassing
individuals with exorbitant fines for each illegally downloaded song,
making it a more severe crime than eg. murder.

  In Finland you won't get fined with 2 million dollars for 20 songs,
but you might get fined quite vast sums nevertheless (tens of thousands
of euros, which is way more than the average citizen owns). And this even
if the "Finnish RIAA" owns zero rights to those songs. It gets compensation
for music which it does not own in any way. (Yes, it has happened in
practice.)

  And in Finland if I tell you that you can bypass DVD copy protection by
using mencoder, at least in theory I could get jailed. Not only is the act
of bypassing copy protections illegal, but even discussing with someone how
to do it is illegal.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 626
Date: 22 Aug 2009 19:09:34
Message: <4a907aae$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> but even discussing with someone how
> to do it is illegal.

I think the DCMA has similar provisions. That's how they get web sites taken 
down that link to DeCSS and things like that.

My apologies. I had remembers you having described the Finnish system as 
rather reasonable, but maybe I was recalling Finnish patent law rather than 
copyright law, or something like that.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Understanding the structure of the universe
    via religion is like understanding the
     structure of computers via Tron.


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: 626
Date: 22 Aug 2009 20:13:01
Message: <4a90898d$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> http://www.xkcd.com/626/
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> When will XKCD start being entertaining again? It seems like it's been 
> ages...

Oh, I don't know... I've enjoyed quite a few of them lately :)

http://www.xkcd.com/626/
http://www.xkcd.com/624/
http://www.xkcd.com/623/
http://www.xkcd.com/622/
http://www.xkcd.com/619/ (this one was especially good :) )

...Chambers


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