On 28-7-2009 20:43, andrel wrote:
> On 28-7-2009 3:51, David H. Burns wrote:
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>
>>>> I ought to apologize for my typos and irregular lines. The keyboard on
>>>> this Timex Sinclair
>>>> is rather small and my tail keeps getting in the way.
>>>
>>> Ah, the ZX-81?  Had to use a rubber band to hold the 16 K expansion 
>>> pack on mine. ;-)
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> You go farther back than me. I wasn't lucky enough to get one of 
>> those. The Timex-Sinclair
>> is a latter version.
> 
> I had (in fact have) a ZX-80, am I now more or less lucky?

For more irrelevant statistics. That one had 1K of memory, bought the 
16K expansion a some years later.
I started programming at school on, IIRC, a TRS-80, no specs in my 
memory. That must have been around '79. So, this years is my 30th 
anniversary as a programmer (in the sense of someone who bugs and debugs 
programs).

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David H. Burns <dhb### [at] cherokeetelnet> wrote:
> Another *really* impressive piece of software. It won't run on an XP 
> machine, of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOSBox

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                                                          - Warp

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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> a programmer (in the sense of someone who bugs and debugs programs).

I like that one :P

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andrel wrote:
> On 28-7-2009 3:51, David H. Burns wrote:
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>
>>>> I ought to apologize for my typos and irregular lines. The keyboard on
>>>> this Timex Sinclair
>>>> is rather small and my tail keeps getting in the way.
>>>
>>> Ah, the ZX-81?  Had to use a rubber band to hold the 16 K expansion 
>>> pack on mine. ;-)
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> You go farther back than me. I wasn't lucky enough to get one of 
>> those. The Timex-Sinclair
>> is a latter version.
> 
> I had (in fact have) a ZX-80, am I now more or less lucky?
A lot more. Especially if you still have it!:)

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Warp wrote:
> David H. Burns <dhb### [at] cherokeetelnet> wrote:
>> Another *really* impressive piece of software. It won't run on an XP 
>> machine, of course.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOSBox
> 
I downloaded and installed DOSBox. When I tried to run John Beale's 
"Hl.exe" , DOSBox
wanted another file it couldn't. I didn't look for it. I spent way too 
much time this looking for
files and libraries that something needs in order to run or compile! 
Thanks, anyway, for
putting me on to it. :)

David

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andrel wrote:
> I started programming at school on, IIRC, a TRS-80, no specs in my 
> memory.

16K, or up to 64K (with some holes for video ram).

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
    back to version 1.0."
   "We've done that already. We call it 2.0."

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On 28-7-2009 21:28, David H. Burns wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> On 28-7-2009 3:51, David H. Burns wrote:
>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I ought to apologize for my typos and irregular lines. The keyboard on
>>>>> this Timex Sinclair
>>>>> is rather small and my tail keeps getting in the way.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, the ZX-81?  Had to use a rubber band to hold the 16 K expansion 
>>>> pack on mine. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> You go farther back than me. I wasn't lucky enough to get one of 
>>> those. The Timex-Sinclair
>>> is a latter version.
>>
>> I had (in fact have) a ZX-80, am I now more or less lucky?
> A lot more. Especially if you still have it!:)

I do, but the plastic is a bit broken in places, but that shows it was 
used. If you want a picture to prove it, you have to wait until I 
reorganize my room, it is behind a door that I can only open when I 
dismantle my desk (that I designed such that it is easy). I estimate 
that that will happen before this thread evaporates.

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On 07/28/09 14:00, Warp wrote:
> David H. Burns<dhb### [at] cherokeetelnet>  wrote:
>> Another *really* impressive piece of software. It won't run on an XP
>> machine, of course.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOSBox

	I'll give this a try one day, but am not sure you can get the quality 
that you could with DOS. If it can, I'll definitely play with it. 
xfractint is full of deficiencies.

-- 
Why is the person who invests all your money called a broker?

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andrel wrote:

>>> I had (in fact have) a ZX-80, am I now more or less lucky?
>> A lot more. Especially if you still have it!:)
> 
> I do, but the plastic is a bit broken in places, but that shows it was 
> used. If you want a picture to prove it, you have to wait until I 
> reorganize my room, it is behind a door that I can only open when I 
> dismantle my desk (that I designed such that it is easy). I estimate 
> that that will happen before this thread evaporates.

I wonder if it still works. It's a treasure anyway. This thread is like 
a good theory:
it continues to mutate but never quite dies out until a change of fad.:)

David

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"David H. Burns" <dhb### [at] cherokeetelnet> wrote:
> >>> I had (in fact have) a ZX-80, am I now more or less lucky?
....
> I wonder if it still works.

I'd guess so.

I recently revisited the old Amstrad CPCs we obtained over time (one for my dad,
one for my brother, one for me, and later one just for the sake of it :)), to
find that they were all still in perfect order - except for all the disc
drives. Replacing the drive belt got one back alive, and I expect the others to
respond positively to that treatment as well.

Ah well, one of the monitors' VSync was a bit unstable, too; and I really don't
expect to still be able to read *too* many of those disks :}

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