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Tom Austin wrote:
> Yes, the sensational news does sell - and with the amount of news that
> is generated, it makes sense that even small things are seen as big.
> Then you also have reporters that push agendas in their stories -
> purposefully focusing on some aspects while burying others. But I guess
> that's always gone on - One just has to read between the lines.
The trouble is, you weren't there and you don't know what realy
happened. You can try to take a guess, but without all the facts
available to you, it's difficult to reach a meaningful conclusion.
This is why I generally don't pay any attention to the news...
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Invisible wrote:
> Tom Austin wrote:
>
>> Yes, the sensational news does sell - and with the amount of news that
>> is generated, it makes sense that even small things are seen as big.
>> Then you also have reporters that push agendas in their stories -
>> purposefully focusing on some aspects while burying others. But I
>> guess that's always gone on - One just has to read between the lines.
>
> The trouble is, you weren't there and you don't know what realy
> happened. You can try to take a guess, but without all the facts
> available to you, it's difficult to reach a meaningful conclusion.
>
Exactly - people are making hard fast very charged conclusions based on
a few sound bytes. Now a organization has to deal with the charge of
racism - whether they deserved it or not.
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Tom Austin <taustin> wrote:
> I do remember way back in high school physics that we discussed the term
> jerry-rig. Our teacher reasoned that 'jerry' was a racial slur and
> shouldn't be used. So he suggested that 'billy-rig' was a better term -
> referring to West Virginia hill billys. Since we were in Virginia, it
> was a better term than 'jerry-rig'
I think that your teacher may have been confusing jerry-rigged with jerry-built
which is a slur against a certain English Jerry. Jerry-rigged is from WW2 and
applied to Allied equipment repaired using German parts.
To be honest, I have heard one phrase used by American oilmen that was a racial
Stephen
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Tom Austin <taustin> wrote:
> So, two groups of kids had been 'disinvited' with no loud complaining.
> As soon as the exact thing happens to a racial minority, it becomes a
> problem.
I'm surprised that you are surprised by something like that, at this point.
The current politically correct multicultural religion has certain dogmas.
One of these dogmas is that whenever something bad happens to non-white
people, it's because of racism (and, naturally, when the exact same thing
happens to white people, it's not racism and usually not even that bad).
(Another dogma is that only white people can commit racist acts, and
only non-white people can be victims of racism. It's impossible for a
black person to commit a racist act, for instance.)
In many places (especially in the US but very much also in Europe) some
people (such as employers) cannot treat everybody in the same way for the
fear of being accused of racism. The must be more lenient to non-white
people than they are to white people because of this. Equal treatment is
not really an option (which is kind of ironic).
--
- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> In many places (especially in the US but very much also in Europe) some
> people (such as employers) cannot treat everybody in the same way for the
> fear of being accused of racism. The must be more lenient to non-white
> people than they are to white people because of this. Equal treatment is
> not really an option (which is kind of ironic).
It's sad but it's true: Equal Opportunities actually means giving more
opportunities to people deemed to be undervalued by present or possibly
past society. Which is rather self-contradictory...
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> It's sad but it's true: Equal Opportunities actually means giving more
> opportunities to people deemed to be undervalued by present or possibly
> past society. Which is rather self-contradictory...
Also certain people get more protection from law than others, based on
ethnicity, both de-facto and in some cases even de-jure. This even in
constitutional countries where the constitution guarantees equal legal
treatment.
(The fact that treating people differently based on ethnicity is the
very definition of racism seems to be completely inconsequential.)
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- Warp
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On 07/10/09 10:28, Warp wrote:
> (The fact that treating people differently based on ethnicity is the
> very definition of racism seems to be completely inconsequential.)
Nope. That's ethnicism. Don't confuse the two.
--
BASIC isn't; C stands for Confusing...
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>>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
anl
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Warp wrote:
> In many places (especially in the US but very much also in Europe) some
> people (such as employers) cannot treat everybody in the same way for the
> fear of being accused of racism.
To be fair, this *does* keep going back and forth. One not rarely reads
articles where some court or other said it was discriminatory to not promote
the white folks who passed the test just because none of the minorities who
took the test passed, or that it's illegal to not admit americans to schools
who did better than the asians, or something like that. Every couple years
there's a ballot in California to switch between "equal opportunity" and "no
discrimination" in the state universities, for example.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
back to version 1.0."
"We've done that already. We call it 2.0."
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Neeum Zawan <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
> On 07/10/09 10:28, Warp wrote:
> > (The fact that treating people differently based on ethnicity is the
> > very definition of racism seems to be completely inconsequential.)
> Nope. That's ethnicism. Don't confuse the two.
To multiculturalists racism, ethnicism, xenofobia, islamofobia and
basically everything is "racism". It's an umbrella term for everything
related to how white men behave towards non-white people.
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- Warp
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On 07/10/09 12:33, Warp wrote:
> Neeum Zawan<m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
>> On 07/10/09 10:28, Warp wrote:
>>> (The fact that treating people differently based on ethnicity is the
>>> very definition of racism seems to be completely inconsequential.)
>
>> Nope. That's ethnicism. Don't confuse the two.
>
> To multiculturalists racism, ethnicism, xenofobia, islamofobia and
> basically everything is "racism". It's an umbrella term for everything
> related to how white men behave towards non-white people.
I know, but just because they do it wrong doesn't mean you should too. ;-)
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BASIC isn't; C stands for Confusing...
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>>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
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