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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Speeding tickets
Date: 17 Jun 2009 09:55:37
Message: <4a38f5d9@news.povray.org>
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/26493

I guess some countries use a sliding scale based on income to determine 
the cost of a speeding ticket.

Otherwise, I'd hate to be speeding in say, Finland and wind up with a 
fine that cost more than I make in 2 years!
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~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Speeding tickets
Date: 17 Jun 2009 10:03:27
Message: <4a38f7af$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> I guess some countries use a sliding scale based on income to determine 
> the cost of a speeding ticket.

"The judge lowered it to $9,000. However, when the police mentioned that 
Mr. Kopra had received two previous speeding tickets in 1999, and that, 
based on the income he had claimed at the time, each fine was $750, the 
judge flipped out and imposed additional fines of $38,000 based on 


I can just imagine a judge "flipping out" on somebody. ;-)



[Note to self: Don't visit Helsinki.]


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Speeding tickets
Date: 17 Jun 2009 10:44:53
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/26493
> 
> I guess some countries use a sliding scale based on income to determine 
> the cost of a speeding ticket.
> 
> Otherwise, I'd hate to be speeding in say, Finland and wind up with a 
> fine that cost more than I make in 2 years!

I have heard about places that fine based on income so that it hurts all 
equally.

Most places have a base fine - $200 please no matter the income.

I guess the equalizer is the 'point system' where each offense gains you 
points.  So many points and you lose your license.

But then again, the poor may have a harder time getting around that the 
rich.


Personally, I in favor of the fine based on income.
At least it hits everyone somewhat the same (as in a percentage).

But then you would have the poor people getting the advantage because 
the police will pull over the shiny expensive car over the old jalopy.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Speeding tickets
Date: 17 Jun 2009 12:52:14
Message: <4a391f3e@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/26493

  There's a conversion mistake there. 116000 euros is about 161000 US dollars,
not 103600.

  I suppose the idea of income-based fines is that the fine should be a
real punishment. If someone earns 1 million euros per year, a fine of
200 euros will be pocket money. Such rich people probably spend that
amount of money in one single restaurant evening. However, if someone
earns 10000 euros per year, 200 euros will be quite a lot.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Speeding tickets
Date: 17 Jun 2009 13:20:32
Message: <4a3925e0$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   There's a conversion mistake there. 116000 euros is about 161000 US dollars,
> not 103600.

Maybe the exchange rate has changed since that time? *shrugs*

-- 
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Speeding tickets
Date: 17 Jun 2009 13:37:35
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Maybe the exchange rate has changed since that time? *shrugs*

  The blog post was made in June 17, 2009. I don't think exchange rates
change *that* fast.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Speeding tickets
Date: 17 Jun 2009 14:18:24
Message: <4a393370$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:52:14 -0400, Warp wrote:

>   I suppose the idea of income-based fines is that the fine should be a
> real punishment.

I agree with this idea.  Giving Bill Gates a speeding ticket for $150 is 
about the same as saying "it's OK for you to speed".  Of course, if 
points are taken off his license for each offense and he loses his 
license as a result, that's slightly better - but only until he gets 
caught driving without a license.

Then again, I'm guessing he probably doesn't drive himself many places 
these days.  That's what his staff is for.

Jim


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Speeding tickets
Date: 17 Jun 2009 14:39:31
Message: <4a393863@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> I guess some countries use a sliding scale based on income to determine
> the cost of a speeding ticket.

Yes, we do.

> Otherwise, I'd hate to be speeding in say, Finland and wind up with a
> fine that cost more than I make in 2 years!

Heh :). For under 20km/h overspeed there's a fixed price (ok, it's
different for under 60km/h limit and over), somewhere around 100-200
euros. Over 20km/h there's income- and speed-based system, which
basically is pretty equal. Also 3 times over 20km/h in a year or 4 times
in 2 years you'll lose your driver's license for 1 month oslt.

-Aero


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From: somebody
Subject: Re: Speeding tickets
Date: 17 Jun 2009 15:45:49
Message: <4a3947ed@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:4a391f3e@news.povray.org...

>   I suppose the idea of income-based fines is that the fine should be a
> real punishment.

Or a real cash cow. Why not extend that to all fines? Or for that matter,
all prices? Bill Gates can pay $20K a gallon for gas...


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Speeding tickets
Date: 17 Jun 2009 16:28:01
Message: <4a3951d1$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Maybe the exchange rate has changed since that time? *shrugs*
> 
>   The blog post was made in June 17, 2009. I don't think exchange rates
> change *that* fast.

I meant since the case was filed, but yeah, you're probably right.

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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