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"Widescreen LCDs are easier to make."

Um, WTF? Why would *that* be??



Also... I just touched my desk and got a static shock. (Like I always 
do, several times per day.) But this time, my LCD monitor went black for 
a second just as I got the shock. WTF?! o_O

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I've had too many bad experiences with dell. Fans and other random hardware 
dying on a consistant basis.
Thats why all of my comps at home are HP. Haven't had a single problem with 
them since my old 8370 circa 1998.
Back then they blew about as much as the imac I tried. I went through 6 
mobos and 4 monitors with that accursed machine. It wasn't even first 
gen...it turned me off completely to all things mac.

My next comp will probably be a Cray CX1. Those look sweeeet!
The only way I'm getting that one though is if funding for this biofuels 
startup comes through.
One never knows with those things though...I've been involved in enough tech 
startups to not beleive anything until I see the money in my account. ;-D

ian

"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> "Widescreen LCDs are easier to make."
>
> Um, WTF? Why would *that* be??
>
>
>
> Also... I just touched my desk and got a static shock. (Like I always do, 
> several times per day.) But this time, my LCD monitor went black for a 
> second just as I got the shock. WTF?! o_O
>

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[GDS|Entropy] wrote:
> I've had too many bad experiences with dell. Fans and other random hardware 
> dying on a consistant basis.

They wouldn't be _my_ first choice either, frankly.

> Thats why all of my comps at home are HP. Haven't had a single problem with 
> them since my old 8370 circa 1998.

HP probably would be. And hey, I gather there are moves afoot for the 
company to eventually switch from Dell to HP. But for now... I'm stuck 
with Dell.

> My next comp will probably be a Cray CX1. Those look sweeeet!

O_O

> The only way I'm getting that one though is if funding for this biofuels 
> startup comes through.
> One never knows with those things though...I've been involved in enough tech 
> startups to not beleive anything until I see the money in my account. ;-D

Uh, yeah... enjoy that one.

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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> [GDS|Entropy] wrote:
>> I've had too many bad experiences with dell. Fans and other random 
>> hardware dying on a consistant basis.
>
> They wouldn't be _my_ first choice either, frankly.
>
>> Thats why all of my comps at home are HP. Haven't had a single problem 
>> with them since my old 8370 circa 1998.
>
> HP probably would be. And hey, I gather there are moves afoot for the 
> company to eventually switch from Dell to HP. But for now... I'm stuck 
> with Dell.

Yeah...never underestimate the effect of commercials on the CIO...

>> My next comp will probably be a Cray CX1. Those look sweeeet!
>
> O_O

They aren't *too* terribly expensive, especially considering what you get.
http://www.cray.com/Products/CX1.aspx

I think that computer, close to maxed out, could hold my interest for a few 
years at least. As long as it plays DOOM, right? ;-D

>> The only way I'm getting that one though is if funding for this biofuels 
>> startup comes through.
>> One never knows with those things though...I've been involved in enough 
>> tech startups to not beleive anything until I see the money in my 
>> account. ;-D
>
> Uh, yeah... enjoy that one.

Yeah, its been interesting so far. A decent amount of cash has come my way 
in the last few months. I'm just glad that it isn't MY startup...someone 
else can deal with all of the annoying crap. I'm just in it for the $$$, 
beyond that I couldn't give less of a crap.

ian

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[GDS|Entropy] wrote:

> Yeah...never underestimate the effect of commercials on the CIO...

Yes. Unlike the IT experts, the commercials use small words that a CIO 
can actually understand. :-P

>>> My next comp will probably be a Cray CX1. Those look sweeeet!
>> O_O
> 
> They aren't *too* terribly expensive, especially considering what you get.
> http://www.cray.com/Products/CX1.aspx

OK, let me get this straight: USD  $10,079.00 for a *bare* system??

$91.00 for the POWER CORD?!

Are you mental?? For that money, I could buy three HP DL380s! :-P

Mind you, put 4 CT5401 blades in it, and we have USD  $44,795.00. That's 
a lot of CPU and GPU, right there... And still less than the price of my 
mum's house.

> I think that computer, close to maxed out, could hold my interest for a few 
> years at least. As long as it plays DOOM, right? ;-D

Er, yeah. My freakin *laptop* can do that while running Linux UNDER 
SOFTWARE EMULATION! :-P

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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> [GDS|Entropy] wrote:
>
>> Yeah...never underestimate the effect of commercials on the CIO...
>
> Yes. Unlike the IT experts, the commercials use small words that a CIO can 
> actually understand. :-P

;-D

>>>> My next comp will probably be a Cray CX1. Those look sweeeet!
>>> O_O
>>
>> They aren't *too* terribly expensive, especially considering what you 
>> get.
>> http://www.cray.com/Products/CX1.aspx
>
> OK, let me get this straight: USD  $10,079.00 for a *bare* system??
>
> $91.00 for the POWER CORD?!

lol...I'm sure its a nice cord. :-p

> Are you mental?? For that money, I could buy three HP DL380s! :-P
>
> Mind you, put 4 CT5401 blades in it, and we have USD  $44,795.00. That's a 
> lot of CPU and GPU, right there... And still less than the price of my 
> mum's house.

Product Information
Model CRAY CX1
Total Processors 12 CPUs
Total Memory 272 GB RAM
Total Storage 2000 GB

Configuration Detail
Item Type Description Quantity SKU
CX1 Enclosure CXC108 1
System CXC108 Chassis 1 CXC108
Active Noise Cancellation Device Active Noise Cancellation Device 1 CX1ANCD
Power Supplies Single Phase Hot Swap Power Module 4 CX1SPHSPM
Gigabit Ethernet Kit Gigabit Ethernet Switch 16 Ports 1 CX1GESW16
Warranty CXC108 - 3 Years Onsite NBD - 24 x 7 Tel Support (World Zone 1) 1 
CXC1083YNBD24X7WW1
CX1 Nodes CN5400 4
CN5400 Compute Node CN5400 (Dual Processor) 1 (4) CN5400
Processor Xeon Quad-Core E5472 3.0GHz 12M 1600 MHz 2 (8) H5472
Memory 8GB FBDIMM DDR2 800MHz ECC/Reg. 8 (32) 8GF8
Hard Drive 320GB 7.2K RPM SATA 3Gbps 2.5" 1 (4) 320725
Warranty CX1 Node - 3 Years Onsite NBD - 24 x 7 Call Center Support (WW1) 1 
(4) CX1N3YNBD24X7WW1
Gigabit Ethernet Kit Gigabit Ethernet Cable 1 (4) CX1GEC
CX1 Nodes CT5401 1
CT5401 GPU Node CT5401 (DP - 1 x GPU) 1 CT5401
Processor Xeon Quad-Core E5462 2.8GHz 12M 1600 MHz 2 H5462
Memory 2GB FBDIMM DDR2 800MHz ECC/Reg. 4 2GF8
Hard Drive 120GB 7.2K RPM SATA 3Gbps 2.5" 1 120S725
GPU NVIDIA TESLA C1060 1 NVTC1060
Gigabit Ethernet Kit Gigabit Ethernet Cable 1 CX1GEC
Warranty CX1 Node - 3 Years Onsite NBD - 24 x 7 Call Center Support (WW1) 1 
CX1N3YNBD24X7WW1
CX1 Nodes CS5404 1
CS5404 Storage Node CS5404 (DP - 4 x HS HDD) 1 CS5404
Processor Xeon Quad-Core E5472 3.0GHz 12M 1600 MHz 2 H5472
Memory 2GB FBDIMM DDR2 800MHz ECC/Reg. 4 2GF8
Internal Fixed Hard Drive 120GB 7.2K RPM SATA 3Gbps 2.5" 1 120S725
Raid Controller RAID controller LSI SAS/SATA 8704EM2 4 ports, 3GB/s 1 
LSI8704EM2
Hot-Swap Hard Drives 120GB 7.2K RPM SATA 3Gbps 2.5" Extended Duty 4 
120S725EX
Warranty CX1 Node - 3 Years Onsite NBD - 24 x 7 Call Center Support (WW1) 1 
CX1N3YNBD24X7WW1
Gigabit Ethernet Kit Gigabit Ethernet Cable 1 CX1GEC
Rack-Mount Rail Kit Rack-Mount Rail Kit 1 CX1RMRK
Power Cord (kit of 2) CX1 Power Cord USA/JP 2.5M 2 CX1PC2
Packaging Standard Packaging 1 CX1BOX
Quantity 1
Total Price (USD) $101,591.00

Now, THATS a config. :-D
A little more than I want...but hell if I won't get it like that should the 
oppertunity arise. :-D

>> I think that computer, close to maxed out, could hold my interest for a 
>> few years at least. As long as it plays DOOM, right? ;-D
>
> Er, yeah. My freakin *laptop* can do that while running Linux UNDER 
> SOFTWARE EMULATION! :-P

:-D
Sorry...old meme... :-p

ian

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> "Widescreen LCDs are easier to make."
>
> Um, WTF? Why would *that* be??

I can think of a few reasons, but none significant enough to actually make a 
comment like that.  For the backlight it's better to have a longer edge to 
inject the light, it's more efficient.  For the electrical design having a 
longer edge to make connections is better, plus having a shorter distance 
top to bottom makes the driver circuits simpler (the left/right drivers just 
switch the pixel transistors on/off, the top/bottom drivers actually send 
the data so are much more sensitive to the capicitance and resistance in the 
lines).

> Also... I just touched my desk and got a static shock. (Like I always do, 
> several times per day.) But this time, my LCD monitor went black for a 
> second just as I got the shock. WTF?! o_O

Hehe, we have an ESD gun here for doing exactly that test, hold it on the 
screen or on one of the connectors and fire!  Usually it does what you say 
at the higher voltages, blanks out until it can reset (customers don't like 
seeing garbled random data on the screen while the drivers try to reset).

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> "Widescreen LCDs are easier to make."
>
> Um, WTF? Why would *that* be??

There's a hidden assumption, and I'd change easier to cheaper: Widescreen
LCDs are cheaper to make (for a given diagonal size & ppi, or for a given
diagonal size and horizontal resolution).

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> There's a hidden assumption, and I'd change easier to cheaper: Widescreen
> LCDs are cheaper to make (for a given diagonal size & ppi, or for a given
> diagonal size and horizontal resolution).

I can make 100 20" monitors out of my single 24" monitor (ok the aspect 
ratio would be 1000:1 but, hey!) :-)

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