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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:16:17
Message: <49b5a341@news.povray.org>
> Global Statistics
> Statistics Last Updated: 3/9/09 12:05:59 (UTC) [8 hour(s) ago]
>     Totals:    
>       Members     431,866
>       Devices     1,200,203
>       Total Run Time     223,417 years (As 1 PC running 24/7)
>       Points Generated     100,949,508,634
>       Results Returned     249,504,379
>     Averages:    
>       Run Time Per Calendar Day (y:d:h:m:s)     136:327:16:15:32
>       Run Time Per Result (y:d:h:m:s)     0:000:07:50:39
>       Points Per Hour of Run Time     51.58
>       Points Per Calendar Day     61,856,316.56
>       Points Per Result     404.60
>       Results Per Calendar Day     152,882.59
>     Yesterday:    
>       Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s)     238:250:03:58:30
>       Points Generated     182,127,010
>       Results Returned     362,215
> 
> 248.879 TeraFLOPS (http://boincstats.com/stats/project_graph.php?pr=wcg)
> 
> This stats say you are wrong and don't have clue what you are talking

	I can tell you didn't understand what the person you're responding to said.

> about , as you don't care putting a decent nick or your name, just
> "somebody", you don't care about altruistic deeds. But your conscience

	It's a very bad idea to take something you don't understand and assume
the worst.


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OK, so what's the speed of dark?


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:21:08
Message: <49b5a464$1@news.povray.org>
Saul Luizaga wrote:
> Actually I gave enough info and people that ask "Why should I?" is I
> don't care about selfless things but if you talk/write to me enough I
> MIGHT do it, if they do, they do for a little time then "suddenly" they
> get "bothered" by it, so they MUST uninstall the damn thing. Is for
> Humanity benefit, the more we are helping the better, you don't know if
> you're gonna develop cancer or another disease in the future, so I don't
>  know HOW some pèople find this to be WRONG, I just don't get it, IMO
> distributed computing for helping Humanity is best thing ever build
> after computers them selves

	If you were behind this initiative, I'd already have decided not to
join. Your attitude is one I've seen in plenty of voluntary work. If
those people don't leave, other volunteers do.


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OK, so what's the speed of dark?


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:27:49
Message: <49b5a5f5@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
>> Most of those PCs resources get wasted anyway since most of them don't 
>> use them to 100% capacity
> 
>   That would be true if PCs consumed the exact same amount of energy
> regardless of what you are doing with them. Of course that's not the case.
> 
True, I think I should had specified that was only resource wise.


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:34:22
Message: <49b5a77e@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> 
>> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>>> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>>>> This stats say you are wrong and don't have clue what you are talking
>>>> about , as you don't care putting a decent nick or your name, just
>>>> "somebody", you don't care about altruistic deeds. But your conscience
>>>> don't leave you alone so you have to post something to make it shut up
>>>> and convince yourself that everything you do is always best. Nice...
>>>> ironically people like you are first to cry out for help when something
>>>> bad happens.
>>> With that attitude you really aren't inviting people to join...
>> Man, if he could *at least* visit the website... Jesus...
> 
> Don't you mean would?
My mistake, non-native English "speacker" here, you would find I make 
errors on my post because of this, I eventually find them myself and I 
try to self-correct me, but eventually will happen. Thanks for the 
correction tho.


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:37:32
Message: <49b5a83c@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> 
>>> With that attitude you really aren't inviting people to join...
>> Man, if he could *at least* visit the website... Jesus...
> 
> Put the shovel down, man.....
> 
> Jim
I don't understand that expression, you mean I should calm down? well it 
has a degree of irritation that SOMEBODY writes/speaks something he 
doesn't know and starts assuming too much and finally based on those 
false assumptions saying, "is wrong/bad", don't you think?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:43:09
Message: <49b5a98d$1@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> I don't know about CFLs, but our house has several "energy saving"
>> lighting units. The problem is, there's a 20 minute delay between
>> turning them on and being able to see where you're going...
> 
> 	Not an issue with CFL's.

It used to be, when they first came out. Nowadays they've gotten better, and 
it's only a couple of minutes, or even close to instant.

I remember my wife calling me (when working from home) asking me to turn on 
the kitchen lights when she left work, so we could see to cook when she got 
home. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:43:43
Message: <49b5a9af$1@news.povray.org>
Point taken Mr. Warp.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:45:33
Message: <49b5aa1d@news.povray.org>
Saul Luizaga wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Saul Luizaga wrote:
>>
>>>> With that attitude you really aren't inviting people to join...
>>> Man, if he could *at least* visit the website... Jesus...
>>
>> Put the shovel down, man.....
>>
>> Jim
> I don't understand that expression, 

It means you've dug a hole that you're stuck inside, and you're continuing 
to dig, hence making the situation worse for yourself.

The implication is that you're trying to solve the problem in a way that's 
making the problem worse for yourself. (I.e., if you insult someone while 
asking for charity, then insult them again when they point it out, you're 
making it less likely you'll get the charity.)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 20:02:31
Message: <49b5ae17$1@news.povray.org>
Saul Luizaga wrote:
> distributed computing for helping Humanity is best thing ever build 
> after computers them selves

While that might be the case, distributed computing for helping companies 
patent drugs that will be milked for maximum profit doesn't seem to helpful. 
Contributing cycles to help Monsanto create seeds that they then charge poor 
farmers for having blown into their field doesn't make much sense to me.

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/projects_showcase/archives/fgc/viewFgcResults.do 
and the other result pages from the other completed projects lets me know 
that the raw data isn't released to the public in any sort of timely way, 
which tells me it's going to be used primarily for the benefit of humanity, 
but primarily for the benefit of the researchers.

The Human Proteome Folding bit was about the only piece where they're 
actually showing any results to the general public.

> thought since most is in the website and the res on the forums, well...

Nobody wants to spend an hour going thru the web site in order to give 
charity. You're asking for people to give something without getting anything 
personal in return, then making it difficult for people to find answers to 
their questions about the process.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 20:25:29
Message: <49b5b379$1@news.povray.org>
The results are "open source" for the scientific/research community 
freely as the website states somewhere, this maybe means the public.

Injustice unfortunately will always be present on everything so, if some 
people take unfair advantage is no reason to stop doing non-profit and 
other altruistic efforts, all the contrary, "kill" them with love. :-D


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