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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 18:22:27
Message: <49b596a3@news.povray.org>
somebody wrote:
> "Chambers" <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote in message
> news:49b439a8$1@news.povray.org...
>> On 3/8/2009 11:18 AM, Saul Luizaga wrote:
>>> http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewAboutUs.do
> 
>>> http://www.one.org/
>>>
>>> If you have any spare core(s)/CPU(s) please help to help, is for
>>> Humanity sake, thank you.
>> When I have spare cores/CPUs, I power them down.  Once I get my roof
>> coated in solar cells, with a windfarm behind my house, and I'm selling
>> power back to the grid despite running everything 24/7, THEN I'll
>> consider giving away my CPU time.
>>
>> As it is, my power bill is too expensive :(
> 
> I wonder about the efficiency of distributed computing anyway. Sure, the
> cost is transfered from the researcher onto the public, so it's good for
> them, but considering the big picture, wouldn't it be more efficient to use
> one supercomputer in a controlled hardware and software environment than
> hundereds of thousands of motley PCs and the bandwidth, crosschecking,
> software, hosting... etc? You can put a dozen CPUs and memory chips on a
> rack mount motherboard with optimized high speed buses and you have the
> computing power of more than a three dozen random PCs, at a fraction of the
> energy expenditure, with the silly one motherboard per PC architecture,
> unnecessary HDs, video cards, other cards and peripherals.
> 
> In short, just turn off your PC at night and donate part of the savings to
> your favourite research. It would probably be more beneficial for all.

Global Statistics
Statistics Last Updated: 3/9/09 12:05:59 (UTC) [8 hour(s) ago]
	Totals: 	
   	Members 	431,866
   	Devices 	1,200,203
   	Total Run Time 	223,417 years (As 1 PC running 24/7)
   	Points Generated 	100,949,508,634
   	Results Returned 	249,504,379
	Averages: 	
   	Run Time Per Calendar Day (y:d:h:m:s) 	136:327:16:15:32
   	Run Time Per Result (y:d:h:m:s) 	0:000:07:50:39
   	Points Per Hour of Run Time 	51.58
   	Points Per Calendar Day 	61,856,316.56
   	Points Per Result 	404.60
   	Results Per Calendar Day 	152,882.59
	Yesterday: 	
   	Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) 	238:250:03:58:30
   	Points Generated 	182,127,010
   	Results Returned 	362,215

248.879 TeraFLOPS (http://boincstats.com/stats/project_graph.php?pr=wcg)

This stats say you are wrong and don't have clue what you are talking 
about , as you don't care putting a decent nick or your name, just 
"somebody", you don't care about altruistic deeds. But your conscience 
don't leave you alone so you have to post something to make it shut up 
and convince yourself that everything you do is always best. Nice... 
ironically people like you are first to cry out for help when something 
bad happens.


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 18:24:48
Message: <49b59730@news.povray.org>
Most of those PCs resources get wasted anyway since most of them don't 
use them to 100% capacity, while you do a spreadsheet, word processor, 
web browsing, listening music (.mp3, .mp4, etc.), watching a movie (a 
DVD and Xvid/DivX movies are GPU accelerated), etc. The project client 
runs in third plane, no getting in the way at all, and does actual 
scientific Lab. testing using spare resources.

  I always wanted to help in disease research, help those guys in the 
Lab making test after test after test, but I wouldn't wanna actually be 
a Lab guy since I don't like Biology/Biochimestry much, but is so 
necessary for Humanity, many people would also wonder "How can I help to 
research and speed up cures/treatment for this millions of people sick?. 
Nothing... so I'll do just that". Now that answer has changed, you can 
do A LOT.

Global Statistics
Statistics Last Updated: 3/9/09 12:05:59 (UTC) [8 hour(s) ago]
	Totals: 	
   	Members 	431,866
   	Devices 	1,200,203
   	Total Run Time 	223,417 years (As 1 PC running 24/7)
   	Points Generated 	100,949,508,634
   	Results Returned 	249,504,379
	Averages: 	
   	Run Time Per Calendar Day (y:d:h:m:s) 	136:327:16:15:32
   	Run Time Per Result (y:d:h:m:s) 	0:000:07:50:39
   	Points Per Hour of Run Time 	51.58
   	Points Per Calendar Day 	61,856,316.56
   	Points Per Result 	404.60
   	Results Per Calendar Day 	152,882.59
	Yesterday: 	
   	Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) 	238:250:03:58:30
   	Points Generated 	182,127,010
   	Results Returned 	362,215

248.879 TeraFLOPS (http://boincstats.com/stats/project_graph.php?pr=wcg)

My PC:
09/03/2009 06:11:22 p.m.||Running CPU benchmarks
09/03/2009 06:11:53 p.m.||Benchmark results:
09/03/2009 06:11:53 p.m.||   Number of CPUs: 2
09/03/2009 06:11:53 p.m.||   1256 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
09/03/2009 06:11:53 p.m.||   2251 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU


Active Research:
http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/newsletter/08Q2/viewProjects.do


Featured on ibm.com describing how World Community Grid works:
http://www.ibm.com/podcasts/howitworks/021307/index.html

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http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/bg/HIW_02132007.pdf



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How Grid Computing Works:
http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewGridComputingBasics.do


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Welcome to the World Community Grid News & Media Repository:
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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 18:31:08
Message: <49b598ac@news.povray.org>
Saul Luizaga wrote:
> This stats say you are wrong and don't have clue what you are talking
> about , as you don't care putting a decent nick or your name, just
> "somebody", you don't care about altruistic deeds. But your conscience
> don't leave you alone so you have to post something to make it shut up
> and convince yourself that everything you do is always best. Nice...
> ironically people like you are first to cry out for help when something
> bad happens.

With that attitude you really aren't inviting people to join...


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:01:21
Message: <49b59fc1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>>> You can find all the answers for these questions and more in the link 
>>> I have provided, please visit them.
>>
>> Fail.
>>
>> As best as I can tell, the answer is "No" and "No." Had the "completed 
>> research" links actually pointed to the completed research, I might 
>> have thought it was worthwhile.
> 
> Oh, I see. It does promise to make results public domain. Actually 
> saying that might have helped, since they don't actually have a search 
> feature on their site, for example. :-)  I didn't think it was worth the 
> time roaming thru an entire web site looking for a question that might 
> not have been answered, just so I can give *them* some money.
> 
> Just a hint, tho?  When you're asking someone to do something nice and 
> selfless for you, it's usually a good idea not to be obnoxious about 
> answering the question "Why should I?"  :-)
> 
Actually I gave enough info and people that ask "Why should I?" is I 
don't care about selfless things but if you talk/write to me enough I 
MIGHT do it, if they do, they do for a little time then "suddenly" they 
get "bothered" by it, so they MUST uninstall the damn thing. Is for 
Humanity benefit, the more we are helping the better, you don't know if 
you're gonna develop cancer or another disease in the future, so I don't 
  know HOW some pèople find this to be WRONG, I just don't get it, IMO 
distributed computing for helping Humanity is best thing ever build 
after computers them selves

Any way... if you check my last self-post DETAILS any info you might 
require.

I'm not trying to be obnoxious, the first post and the first self-post 
shows clearly what WCG is and how to download the client. I'm not saying 
your questions are not valid or anyone asking about it, is just that I 
thought since most is in the website and the res on the forums, well...

If I was I'm sorry, wasn't my intention at all, point taken though, thx.

:-)


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:03:21
Message: <49b5a039@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>> This stats say you are wrong and don't have clue what you are talking
>> about , as you don't care putting a decent nick or your name, just
>> "somebody", you don't care about altruistic deeds. But your conscience
>> don't leave you alone so you have to post something to make it shut up
>> and convince yourself that everything you do is always best. Nice...
>> ironically people like you are first to cry out for help when something
>> bad happens.
> 
> With that attitude you really aren't inviting people to join...
Man, if he could *at least* visit the website... Jesus...


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:06:53
Message: <49b5a10d@news.povray.org>
Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> > Saul Luizaga wrote:
> >> This stats say you are wrong and don't have clue what you are talking
> >> about , as you don't care putting a decent nick or your name, just
> >> "somebody", you don't care about altruistic deeds. But your conscience
> >> don't leave you alone so you have to post something to make it shut up
> >> and convince yourself that everything you do is always best. Nice...
> >> ironically people like you are first to cry out for help when something
> >> bad happens.
> > 
> > With that attitude you really aren't inviting people to join...
> Man, if he could *at least* visit the website... Jesus...

  He is referring to your attitude.

  You want people to help. You are not going to get that help if you begin
insulting people when they ask questions.

  So what if the questions seem selfish to you. Do you want people to help
or not? If yes, then answer those questions appropriately rather than
starting to insult people and accuse them of whatever you think they are
doing wrong.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:07:55
Message: <198br4l0f6haik8v4j5lf027let6r6lsq1@4ax.com>
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote:

>Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>>> This stats say you are wrong and don't have clue what you are talking
>>> about , as you don't care putting a decent nick or your name, just
>>> "somebody", you don't care about altruistic deeds. But your conscience
>>> don't leave you alone so you have to post something to make it shut up
>>> and convince yourself that everything you do is always best. Nice...
>>> ironically people like you are first to cry out for help when something
>>> bad happens.
>> 
>> With that attitude you really aren't inviting people to join...
>Man, if he could *at least* visit the website... Jesus...

Don't you mean would?
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:08:12
Message: <49b5a15c@news.povray.org>
Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> Most of those PCs resources get wasted anyway since most of them don't 
> use them to 100% capacity

  That would be true if PCs consumed the exact same amount of energy
regardless of what you are doing with them. Of course that's not the case.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:08:46
Message: <49b5a17e$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Saul Luizaga wrote:

>> With that attitude you really aren't inviting people to join...
> Man, if he could *at least* visit the website... Jesus...

Put the shovel down, man.....

Jim


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 9 Mar 2009 19:14:02
Message: <49b5a2ba$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> I don't know about CFLs, but our house has several "energy saving"
> lighting units. The problem is, there's a 20 minute delay between
> turning them on and being able to see where you're going...

	Not an issue with CFL's.




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