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Daniel Phillips invents a Linux FS with all the newest features in NTFS.
Should be interesting to see how the stuff actually gets integrated with the
Linux system APIs, given all the new functionality. Will it be one big lump
of dynamically-typed ioctl()s to control the stuff? Or something more rational?
(At least unlike Microsoft, the article doesn't claim all the ideas are
newly invented. ;-)
http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/309094/96a4d6980342ab7e/
Look forward to fragmented files, folks. ;-)
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote:
> Daniel Phillips invents a Linux FS with all the newest features in NTFS.
> Should be interesting to see how the stuff actually gets integrated with the
> Linux system APIs, given all the new functionality. Will it be one big lump
> of dynamically-typed ioctl()s to control the stuff? Or something more rational?
> (At least unlike Microsoft, the article doesn't claim all the ideas are
> newly invented. ;-)
> http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/309094/96a4d6980342ab7e/
> Look forward to fragmented files, folks. ;-)
Why do you always have to have such a condescending tone when talking
about linux?
If linux does not support something, it's worth of mockery. If people
actually go and implement something new for linux, it's also worth of
mockery. Whatever they do, it's never right.
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Warp wrote:
> Why do you always have to have such a condescending tone when talking
> about linux?
The only "condescending" bit was the comment about fragmented files. That
probably came about because I'd just read a big long flame-war about why
Linux doesn't fragment files and Windows sucks and yadda yadda.
I guess it's because much of the time I run across these things, it's
following links from "MS is stupid and evil" rants.
> If linux does not support something, it's worth of mockery.
I usually don't mock what Linux doesn't support. Regret it, maybe, but not
mock it. I mock all the folks who say that Linux not supporting something
means you shouldn't need it.
> If people
> actually go and implement something new for linux, it's also worth of
> mockery.
It's not mockery here. I thought folks might be interested in the
developments. Particularly since we just had a big discussion about the
stuff like transactional file updates.
Actually, the biggest "mock" was making fun of MS for claiming everything
they add to Windows is their own invention. ;-) I *do* try to balance out
my rants.
> Whatever they do, it's never right.
Yeah. Same with MS, really. :-)
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Warp wrote:
> Why do you always have to have such a condescending tone when talking
> about linux?
Why the paranoia? Linux ain't your baby... ;-)
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> Why the paranoia? Linux ain't your baby... ;-)
...if this degenerates into another "YOU RAPED MY FAMILY" type
conversation, I'm leaving. o_O
Only kidding. ;-)
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Invisible wrote:
> ...if this degenerates into another "YOU RAPED MY FAMILY" type
> conversation,
Another??
Who is wearing a t-shirt with a skull on it?
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see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> The only "condescending" bit was the comment about fragmented files.
Maybe you should choose your post subjects better. "Cool. Linux to
reinvent NTFS" sounds like mockery. In general, "reinventing" something,
is usually a negative term, or intended to mock something for doing
something which other have already done long ago.
Maybe I'm just paranoid.
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> The only "condescending" bit was the comment about fragmented files.
>
> Maybe you should choose your post subjects better. "Cool. Linux to
> reinvent NTFS" sounds like mockery.
Actually, I'd originally written that even worse, changed it, crashed my
mail reader, and then rewrote it this way. So yeah, it was maybe a little
more smarmy than needs to be, but that's why it has a smiley. But you're
right, I didn't look closely at the subject line when answering you.
I probably wouldn't have worded it that way had we not had several big
discussions here recently about the reason Linux doesn't need any of those
features NTFS supports.
Of course, the guy has been working on it for 8 years at least with big gaps
in time, so the fact he's just now starting to catch up isn't a reflection
on him.
> In general, "reinventing" something,
> is usually a negative term, or intended to mock something for doing
> something which other have already done long ago.
So.... stop me if I'm wrong, but isn't 95% of Linux doing something which
others have already done long ago? I mean, doesn't the very name ending in
"x" indicate it's in some respects reinventing UNIX? If "reinventing" is a
bad term, then I'm afraid there's far more than Tux3 that's a problem there.
Sure, there are probably technical bits inside that are new and exciting
(like /proc or so?), but rc.local and /etc/fstab have been around since
before sockets were invented.
I don't see "reinventing" as a bad word, tho, particularly if you're
reimplementing proprietary ideas in open software. "Reimplementing NTFS"
doesn't mean quite the same thing, and most of the other subject lines that
were informative that I thought about were too long.
Do I get to complain every time someone points out where features of Windows
were stolen from Apple or VMS or ...? :-)
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.
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