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And lo On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:26:25 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> did
spake thusly:
>>> The only problem is that they don't sell a huge range of stuff. (Or at
>>> least, stuff I'd want to buy.) Having just said that, last week they
>>> sold me a Tilby and some rather fetching gloves...
>> Tilby? Hmm I'm trying to picture you in a trilby.
>
> OK, so I didn't press the key hard enough! :-P
>
> If I get time I'll take a photograph... with the brown shirt, brown
> pinstripe trousers and matching brown pinstripe Trilby, *I* think I look
> rather dashing. ;-) Certainly it caused a stir at work yesterday...
They were all probably wondering what a tree was doing in reception :-P
>>> On the other hand... don't you just hate it when you go somewhere and
>>> you're all like "yes, I'd like to buy this £2,000 item here please"
>>> and they're all like "meh, I can't be bothered, go away". (!!)
>> Nah never had that... oh wait ;-)
>
> YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE!!
Nah not as if I was recently looking to spend £1,500 on a couple of TV's
or something.
>>> and a reel of tape that's wider in the center than at the edges, so
>>> the tape always curls when you pull it off.
>> Que?
>
> I mean the reel is spherical rather than cylindrical. :-P It's warped
> slightly...
[Blinks] Um how old is this reel of tape, does it have the words Sellotape
First Prototype written on the inside?
>>> Plus the scisors won't get the tape either.
>> Wow how blunt are these scissors? Sounds like you need a whetstone.
>
> Well, technically they *cut* the tape... but the tape then sticks to
> them. I'd assert that I need a tape dispenser! ;-)
Yeah but depending on what type you get the tape can dry out. Besides -
put the reel on the last three fingers of one hand, the end of the tape on
your thumb, and your index finger at the point between the reel and the
loose tape; keep taut and cut perpendicularly.
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And lo On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:40:37 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did
spake thusly:
> Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>
>> Our records show this IP address registered to a single male and as
>> such your visit here has been logged and may be used against you in a
>> court of law you pervert! Expect a knock on the door from the police
>> within the minute.
>> Worrying that I'm only semi-joking.
>
> Yeah. Because no single male would be the father of a girl who happens
> to be a brownie. No, sir! ;-)
>
> (Mercifully, it's virtually impossible to determine who an IP address
> belongs to...)
Why would that be? Your ISP knows who's connecting to them and what IP
address has been assigned to them. If the company keeps its own logs then
it's simply a matter of matching up times. Come the official police state
and we'll all have fixed IP addresses tied to our ID cards and it'll be a
criminal offence to use a different one.
On an even easier note if you've signed up to Google (or don't clear your
cookies) and did the search there then they at least know exactly who you
are and what you like to search for; all it'll take is a court order and
voila.
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Phil Cook
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I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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>> (Mercifully, it's virtually impossible to determine who an IP address
>> belongs to...)
>
> Why would that be?
...because every minute of every hour, hundreds of thousands of people
connect to a given ISP and get assigned new IP addresses purely at random?
> Your ISP knows who's connecting to them and what IP
> address has been assigned to them. If the company keeps its own logs
> then it's simply a matter of matching up times.
Excep that I'm almost certain that it's illegal for ISPs to give out
that kind of information. (I'm also almost certain they don't even
record it in the first place, because it would be too hard.)
> Come the official police
> state and we'll all have fixed IP addresses tied to our ID cards and
> it'll be a criminal offence to use a different one.
Yeah, ain't that the truth...
> On an even easier note if you've signed up to Google (or don't clear
> your cookies) and did the search there then they at least know exactly
> who you are and what you like to search for; all it'll take is a court
> order and voila.
Again, how do they get their hands on cookies for a different domain?
(Also, what do you mean "sign up to Google"?)
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:22:02 -0000, "Phil Cook v2"
<phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>
>And lo On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:07:40 -0000, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aoldotcom>
>did spake thusly:
>
>> Ha! You need a Swiss Army Knife for Christmas ;)
>
>Leatherman; let the fight begin :-)
>
There's no need to fight, Phil. Leatherman are good multi tools but they don't
suit my needs. I have one but seldom use it. To be honest, with my Swiss Army
knife, after the blade the tool I use most is the corkscrew :)
--
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:10:31 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> How intelligent do you need to be to use a phrase like "fantastically
>>> fantastic"? :-P
>>
>> Between 7 and 10 years old ;)
>
>Isn't that kind of patronising to young girls who geniunely *are* highly
>intelligent?
I dinnae ken so I'll leave it to our young girls to answer :)
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Stephen
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And lo On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:22:12 -0000, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aoldotcom>
did spake thusly:
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:22:02 -0000, "Phil Cook v2"
> <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>
>>
>> And lo On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:07:40 -0000, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aoldotcom>
>> did spake thusly:
>>
>>> Ha! You need a Swiss Army Knife for Christmas ;)
>>
>> Leatherman; let the fight begin :-)
>>
> There's no need to fight, Phil. Leatherman are good multi tools but they
> don't
> suit my needs. I have one but seldom use it. To be honest, with my Swiss
> Army
> knife, after the blade the tool I use most is the corkscrew :)
And the Spartan is about a third the price of the C2, so fairy nuff.
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http://flipc.blogspot.com
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And lo On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:19:11 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did
spake thusly:
>>> (Mercifully, it's virtually impossible to determine who an IP address
>>> belongs to...)
>> Why would that be?
>
> ...because every minute of every hour, hundreds of thousands of people
> connect to a given ISP and get assigned new IP addresses purely at
> random?
Except they know the telephone number you're connecting from, unless you
hide it and then some won't let you connect.
>> Your ISP knows who's connecting to them and what IP address has been
>> assigned to them. If the company keeps its own logs then it's simply a
>> matter of matching up times.
>
> Excep that I'm almost certain that it's illegal for ISPs to give out
> that kind of information. (I'm also almost certain they don't even
> record it in the first place, because it would be too hard.)
Check various communications laws, there's normally a bunch of provisos
about providing information. How do you think the police get hold of
telephone records?
>> Come the official police state and we'll all have fixed IP addresses
>> tied to our ID cards and it'll be a criminal offence to use a different
>> one.
>
> Yeah, ain't that the truth...
>
>> On an even easier note if you've signed up to Google (or don't clear
>> your cookies) and did the search there then they at least know exactly
>> who you are and what you like to search for; all it'll take is a court
>> order and voila.
>
> Again, how do they get their hands on cookies for a different domain?
Check your stats pages you might see a referrer address so they know where
you came from, they then track you through their site. Now look closely at
the results google presents say for "test"
The first result is "Test.com Web Based Testing Software" hover over it
and it'll take you to www.test.com right? Wrong! Pull up the properties of
the link and you'll see it's going to
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.test.com%2F&ei=Bag2Sb7LB6HcwwH00_ygCA&usg=AFQjCNH21KLjC0CBkjon2DwD_CZ0HApLMw&sig2=vLPKI-AayJcm2Yjw8x974w
They know where you came from, what you were doing on their site, and
where you left for.
> (Also, what do you mean "sign up to Google"?)
For personalised info on iGoogle, you got Gmail?
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I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:33:35 -0000, "Phil Cook v2"
<phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>And the Spartan is about a third the price of the C2, so fairy nuff.
Woosh!
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>>>> (Mercifully, it's virtually impossible to determine who an IP
>>>> address belongs to...)
>>> Why would that be?
>>
>> ...because every minute of every hour, hundreds of thousands of people
>> connect to a given ISP and get assigned new IP addresses purely at
>> random?
>
> Except they know the telephone number you're connecting from, unless you
> hide it and then some won't let you connect.
This still doesn't explain who the ISP is supposed to keep track of
several thousand computers all concurrently using their system.
> Check various communications laws, there's normally a bunch of provisos
> about providing information. How do you think the police get hold of
> telephone records?
OK, so they give the *police* that information. They're not going to
give it to anybody else, are they? :-P
>> Again, how do they get their hands on cookies for a different domain?
>
> Check your stats pages you might see a referrer address so they know
> where you came from, they then track you through their site. Now look
> closely at the results google presents say for "test"
>
> The first result is "Test.com Web Based Testing Software" hover over it
> and it'll take you to www.test.com right? Wrong! Pull up the properties
> of the link and you'll see it's going to
>
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.test.com%2F&ei=Bag2S
>
> They know where you came from, what you were doing on their site, and
> where you left for.
OK, so they know I came from Google. They still don't know what I
searched for. :-P
>> (Also, what do you mean "sign up to Google"?)
>
> For personalised info on iGoogle, you got Gmail?
...wuh?
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And lo On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:45:59 -0000, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aoldotcom>
did spake thusly:
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:33:35 -0000, "Phil Cook v2"
> <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>
>> And the Spartan is about a third the price of the C2, so fairy nuff.
>
> Woosh!
Spartan being the SAK with blade and corkscew and C2 being the cheapest LM
of similar design. Just looked up recent prices - £9 vs. £50 woah a fifth
of the price.
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