Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> 
> I had to copy his message to a text editor and do s/u/you/ and other
> replacements...
> 

U cnt do tht. U need 2 do s/\ u\ /\ you\ /g, since othr words can have u
 in the mddle of thm.

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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> 
> U cnt do tht. U need 2 do s/\ u\ /\ you\ /g, since othr words can have u
>  in the mddle of thm.

I'll add a disclaimer here. I haven't read the whole thread, but I
personally didn't see Saul's text unreadable.

OTOH, I don't see how it could be faster readable, while the length of
the word practically effects only long and hard words - practically (at
least for me) it takes the same time to read u or you in the middle of
text - I just understand you faster. Today it's not a big issue (at
least for me), but I can imagine back when sending a kilobyte took over
3 seconds and storage really costed some money saving bits and bytes was
a bigger issue. Y2k -problem proved it (if it hadn't been a big issue,
there wouldn't have been such a problem).

-Aero

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OK, I'm answering everyone in this post:
I may sound juvenile because I wrote a lot in a juvenile game forum and 
Stephen what I was quoting was from the article u offered a link to, so 
I don't see why it sounded juvenile. I had no problem at all on that 
forum trying to understand the posts since is only a simple case on word 
abbreviations by replacing them for their phonetics proxys.

Also I can't believe somebody actually got insulted by this type of 
abbreviations, I actually don't see the logic of the "insult". Was my 
post saying: you are dumb because you who have fought dyslexia can't 
read it? If so, I never even got close to mention dyslexia people, I 
only meant that some people here do intellectual achievements by 
publishing very mind challenging posts to show off themselves as a true 
purpose so I found ridiculous that people here complained about a simple 
mental replacement. Anyway, I don't meant that the people that 
complaining about it is the same that made those show offs, I think was 
a mistake on my part to assume that everyone here would be able to 
understand me, since I assume smart people don't have a problem with 
this kind Internet slang, let alone knowing some people here had a won 
battle against dyslexia. I apology for the mistake.

Regards.

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Stephen wrote:

> To a native English speaker it makes you sound juvenile or ignorant. Also other
> people do not read your text faster.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7775013.stm
> Hrd 2 rd

Yep. I generally read people who use those obnoxious 1-2 letter 
abbreviations as being 12-14 .. Which is rather unsettling when it's 
someone you know in real life, and they type like a scriddie ...
-- 
~Mike

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"Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
news:4941782f@news.povray.org...
> FWIW, I'm more tolerant to some piracy than to people using "u" and "ppl"
> and "coz" repeatedly >.<
>

 Why? It's fine for me. As a non english speaker, Saul has found a way that 
is comfortable for him. Now, take my son, who is an english speaker and read 
the rubbish that he types into his phone -  if you could, that is.

   ~Steve~

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St. wrote:
> the rubbish that he types into his phone

Almost understandable, given you're typing with a 10-key interface into a 
mechanism that gives you two lines of text per message.

(On the other hand, I figure if you need more than two lines, dial the other 
person's phone number and talk to them. ;-)


-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
   see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:31:53 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>  ppl means Private Pilot License or Preferred Parts
> List amongst other things.

Past Participle. :-)

Jim

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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:42:02 -0800, Darren New wrote:

> St. wrote:
>> the rubbish that he types into his phone
> 
> Almost understandable, given you're typing with a 10-key interface into
> a mechanism that gives you two lines of text per message.
> 
> (On the other hand, I figure if you need more than two lines, dial the
> other person's phone number and talk to them. ;-)

Well, and the "lingo" evolved because the billing used to be "by the 
character", IIRC.

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Well, and the "lingo" evolved because the billing used to be "by the
> character", IIRC.

Not really. It's because SMS messages are limited to 160 characters.

Plus, of course, the fact that the less you have to type the better... At
least if you don't have predictive text (T9 and friends).

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On 15-Dec-08 2:35, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> OK, I'm answering everyone in this post:
> I may sound juvenile because I wrote a lot in a juvenile game forum and 
> Stephen what I was quoting was from the article u offered a link to, so 
> I don't see why it sounded juvenile. I had no problem at all on that 
> forum trying to understand the posts since is only a simple case on word 
> abbreviations by replacing them for their phonetics proxys.
> 
> Also I can't believe somebody actually got insulted by this type of 
> abbreviations, I actually don't see the logic of the "insult". Was my 
> post saying: you are dumb because you who have fought dyslexia can't 
> read it? If so, I never even got close to mention dyslexia people, I 
> only meant that some people here do intellectual achievements by 
> publishing very mind challenging posts to show off themselves as a true 
> purpose so I found ridiculous that people here complained about a simple 
> mental replacement. Anyway, I don't meant that the people that 
> complaining about it is the same that made those show offs, I think was 
> a mistake on my part to assume that everyone here would be able to 
> understand me, since I assume smart people don't have a problem with 
> this kind Internet slang, let alone knowing some people here had a won 
> battle against dyslexia. I apology for the mistake.
> 

I think there is something funny in this group, and you are not the 
first to experience it in this way. As you know news.povray.org is 
deliberately not part of the standard newsgroup system. Perhaps it is 
more than just a physical disconnection. I think on average the people 
here are somewhat older and although very involved in computers, they 
are not the rather empty showing off 'skills' type. Some of us even 
think before writing (not me of course).
You might also have noticed the continued annoyance with the lack of 
spell checking of our mascot. I think that in general you could say that 
many here appreciate it if you write good English or at least try to. If 
you are not a native speaker, use that to your advantage. Note that we 
are a friendly bunch of guys, and the occasional lady, but don't take us 
to seriously, we tend to like running gags. If you don't stop being 
taken by surprise with what goes on here, u and ur u may become one of 
those.

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