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>> OK. When you mentioned stops, you mentioned a 32' (or was it 16'?)
>> stop. Obviously from the sheer size a very low note. How does that
>> relate to the organ.
>
> In my recording, I have (from the looks of it) two 8' stops, a 4' stop
> and the 2' pulled (in the Great division), and also a 16' in the Swell.
To clarify: The organ I played has two 16' stops, and no 32' stops at all.
One of the 16' stops is obviously (the only rank in) the Peddle
division. The other one is in the Swell division, oddly enough...
Would you (or anybody else) be interested in a complete readout of the
organ stops?
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Invisible wrote:
> Would you (or anybody else) be interested in a complete readout of the
> organ stops?
Perhaps ... could be interesting..
--
~Mike
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Built 1857 by A. Hunter of London.
Equal temperment, electric blowing. (Originally hand bellows.) Balanced
swell peddle.
2 manuals and 1 peddleboard.
Peddleboard: 30 keys, C0 - F1, straight concave, wood, mechanical action.
Manuals: 56 keys, C0 - G3, evory, mechanical action.
Peddle division:
Bordon 16'
Great division:
Open Diapason 8'
Stopped Diapason 8'
Dulciana 8' (incomplete rank)
Principal 4'
Flute 4' (incomplete rank)
Fifteenth 2'
Swell division (enclosed):
Double Diapason 16' (incomplete rank)
Horn Diapason 8' (incomplete rank)
Lieblich Gedact 8'
Principal 4'
Full Mixture III
Cornopean 8'
Tremelo (sic.)
Couplers:
Swell to Peddle
Swell to Great
Great to Peddle
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Invisible wrote:
> 2 manuals and 1 peddleboard.
Typical for a small organ.
> Peddleboard: 30 keys, C0 - F1, straight concave, wood, mechanical action.
Concave = the peddles in the middle are lower than the peddles at the
edges. The alternative is for all peddles to be the same height.
Straight = the peddles are parallel to each other. The alternative is
"radial", meaning the peddles radiate out around the stool.
> Peddle division:
> Bordon 16'
Small organs typically have very few peddle stops. If there is only one,
it is almost always a Bordon.
> Great division:
> Open Diapason 8'
> Stopped Diapason 8'
These are your basic organ stops. Sounds rather flute-like. The stopped
diapason sounds quieter and more muffled, but otherwise similar to the
open diapason. These are both 8' (i.e., normal pitch) stops.
> Dulciana 8' (incomplete rank)
A rather pleasent, quiet stop, with a mellow tone. Sounds almost
"distant". It is "incomplete" in that there are no pipes for the bottom
octave.
> Principal 4'
> Flute 4' (incomplete rank)
> Fifteenth 2'
These sound more or less like diapasons, but higher-pitched. Use them on
their own, or mixed in with an 8' stop just to add more trebble.
> Swell division (enclosed):
> Double Diapason 16' (incomplete rank)
Double as in double length. (This is a 16' stop.)
> Horn Diapason 8' (incomplete rank)
I'm not fond of this one. Sounds a bit like a fog horn.
> Lieblich Gedact 8'
Ask Florian how the **** you pronounce that. (It seems to be roughly
"YEE-blihh deDAAkt".) It has a lovely flute-like tone, soft and
delicate. Works best for melodies rather than chords.
> Principal 4'
> Full Mixture III
Again, use these to flesh out the sound. Personally I don't like the
Mixture stop very much.
> Cornopean 8'
The only reed rank on the organ. (The others are all flue pipes.)
Produces an irritating trumpet-like sound.
> Tremelo (sic.)
Pull this and the organ makes a thunderous noise like an unbalanced
washing machine! o_O Makes all the ranks sound like they've been put
through a Leslie speaker. (It modulates the air pressure.)
> Couplers:
> Swell to Peddle
> Swell to Great
> Great to Peddle
As demonstrated, this causes a second set of keys to move when you press
the first set. (Also makes the keys correspondingly heavier! And more
prone to jamming on this tired old organ.) On modern electric organs,
this would just make an extra rank speak without actually moving the
keys. I kinda like the graphic demonstration of what it does though!
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Invisible wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>
>> 2 manuals and 1 peddleboard.
>
> Typical for a small organ.
>
>> Peddleboard: 30 keys, C0 - F1, straight concave, wood, mechanical action.
>
> Concave = the peddles in the middle are lower than the peddles at the
> edges. The alternative is for all peddles to be the same height.
>
> Straight = the peddles are parallel to each other. The alternative is
> "radial", meaning the peddles radiate out around the stool.
>
>> Peddle division:
>> Bordon 16'
>
> Small organs typically have very few peddle stops. If there is only one,
> it is almost always a Bordon.
>
>> Great division:
>> Open Diapason 8'
>> Stopped Diapason 8'
>
> These are your basic organ stops. Sounds rather flute-like. The stopped
> diapason sounds quieter and more muffled, but otherwise similar to the
> open diapason. These are both 8' (i.e., normal pitch) stops.
>
>> Dulciana 8' (incomplete rank)
>
> A rather pleasent, quiet stop, with a mellow tone. Sounds almost
> "distant". It is "incomplete" in that there are no pipes for the bottom
> octave.
>
>> Principal 4'
>> Flute 4' (incomplete rank)
>> Fifteenth 2'
>
> These sound more or less like diapasons, but higher-pitched. Use them on
> their own, or mixed in with an 8' stop just to add more trebble.
>
>> Swell division (enclosed):
>> Double Diapason 16' (incomplete rank)
>
> Double as in double length. (This is a 16' stop.)
>
>> Horn Diapason 8' (incomplete rank)
>
> I'm not fond of this one. Sounds a bit like a fog horn.
>
>> Lieblich Gedact 8'
>
> Ask Florian how the **** you pronounce that. (It seems to be roughly
> "YEE-blihh deDAAkt".) It has a lovely flute-like tone, soft and
> delicate. Works best for melodies rather than chords.
>
>> Principal 4'
>> Full Mixture III
>
> Again, use these to flesh out the sound. Personally I don't like the
> Mixture stop very much.
>
>> Cornopean 8'
>
> The only reed rank on the organ. (The others are all flue pipes.)
> Produces an irritating trumpet-like sound.
>
>> Tremelo (sic.)
>
> Pull this and the organ makes a thunderous noise like an unbalanced
> washing machine! o_O Makes all the ranks sound like they've been put
> through a Leslie speaker. (It modulates the air pressure.)
>
>> Couplers:
>> Swell to Peddle
>> Swell to Great
>> Great to Peddle
>
> As demonstrated, this causes a second set of keys to move when you press
> the first set. (Also makes the keys correspondingly heavier! And more
> prone to jamming on this tired old organ.) On modern electric organs,
> this would just make an extra rank speak without actually moving the
> keys. I kinda like the graphic demonstration of what it does though!
Thanks for that :) an interesting read. So, this is a pretty typical
organ, then?
--
~Mike
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> Thanks for that :) an interesting read.
Heh. I'm glad somebody liked it. ;-)
> So, this is a pretty typical organ, then?
It's fairly typical for a small Victorian organ, yes. The *exact* stop
readout varies according to the builder's taste and the time period, but
this is a fairly typical specimin.
2 manuals + 1 peddleboard is about the smallest pipe organs get. There
are smaller ones, but not often.
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Now with two hands:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ou5rQuzfyP4
As you can see, this is... quite hard! o_O
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ou5rQuzfyP4
> As you can see, this is... quite hard! o_O
Still much better than anything I could ever have the patience to learn...
Btw, who is the cameraman?
--
- Warp
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Warp wrote:
>> As you can see, this is... quite hard! o_O
>
> Still much better than anything I could ever have the patience to learn...
Yeah. Heh. It's been, what, 3 *months* now... and I still haven't
finished learning it, much less practising it to perfection! :-S
I've got one final video I might upload. The two posted so far are from
the 18th of October. I went back the next weekend and got some slightly
better pictures. I'll see about editing it down for posting...
[What you *don't* see is that the bit I just posted is edited down. It's
actually about the 5th runthrough. Hence the frustration displayed at
the end. Like "damnit, this it the 5th take and I still can't play it
straight!"]
> Btw, who is the cameraman?
My dad.
(The shaking and the weird camera angles are due to his arm going numb
with the intense cold. Plus... well have *you* tried holding your arm
above your head for 5 minutes? The blood drains after a while...)
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Invisible wrote:
> The bizzare thing is that it's difficult to play it slower - I keep
> forgetting where I've got to! ;-)
So true, that does happen sometimes.
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