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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: It's here!
Date: 5 Nov 2008 14:22:50
Message: <4911f28a$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   Congratulations on your first successful youtube video.

Thank you. It nearly killed me, but I did it eventually.

(Seriously... 7 attempts to make the file upload?? How on earth does so 
much stuff get onto YouTube when it's this hard to post anything?!)

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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: It's here!
Date: 5 Nov 2008 14:27:21
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> (Seriously... 7 attempts to make the file upload?? How on earth does so 
> much stuff get onto YouTube when it's this hard to post anything?!)

  Do you honestly think youtube is *always* like that? Ever heard of
server problems, lag, etc?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: It's here!
Date: 5 Nov 2008 14:28:52
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Tom Austin wrote:

> Mu understanding is that music is not just pressing keys or hitting 
> something.  It is flowing from within and what your fingers or toes do 
> just is as expression of that.  Sure, you might be reading sheet music, 
> but that's like looking at words while singing a song you know.

Well yeah. It's technique and art.

For example, that organ I'm playing. The keys are seriously heavy. Can 
you see how the top set also moves when I play the button set? That's 
because there's metal strings physically linking the two. That makes the 
keys heavy as hell! >_< I'm also freezing my **** off, so I'm shivering 
(which messes up my timing) and my fingers aren't dexterous enough.

The long and short is, I'm hitting all the correct notes in the right 
order, but I'm not entirely "happy" with the performance. I know I can 
do better. I'm just frustrated I don't have that on video... :-/

> I could believe that.  I think just learning what music is, how to read 
> it and even just hum it are a great start - I can't even do that.  I've 
> 'learned' how to read sheet music at various times in my life - just 
> never used it enough to actually remember any of it.

Heh. It's 10 years since the last time I seriously tried to read music. 
I've now been learning this Toccata for so long, it's almost comming 
back to me. ;-)

Being able to read and/or write music isn't the same as being able to 
play it. I'm more concerned with being able to play it.

> Oh to be able to play something from within my head that actually made 
> people smile.....

Amen!

Most people look at this YouTube video and go "that's nice dear". 
Doesn't do justice to the 3 months I spent reaching this level...

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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: It's here!
Date: 5 Nov 2008 14:42:46
Message: <4911f736$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> (Seriously... 7 attempts to make the file upload?? How on earth does so 
>> much stuff get onto YouTube when it's this hard to post anything?!)
> 
>   Do you honestly think youtube is *always* like that? Ever heard of
> server problems, lag, etc?

I tried at 10 PM *and* 10 AM, on two different days of the week. What 
time of day *isn't* it busy?

Still, I'm also having trouble to get mere playback to work... it keeps 
"giving up" on downloading the video. :-S

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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: It's here!
Date: 5 Nov 2008 15:01:42
Message: <4911fba6$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> comment telling me I suck?

AWESOME TOCCATTA!

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: It's here!
Date: 5 Nov 2008 15:51:27
Message: <4912074f@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> AWESOME TOCCATTA!

Yay! *dances*



Now... how well did you think I played it? :-P

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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: It's here!
Date: 5 Nov 2008 15:55:52
Message: <49120858$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> 
> The long and short is, I'm hitting all the correct notes in the right 
> order, but I'm not entirely "happy" with the performance. I know I can 
> do better. I'm just frustrated I don't have that on video... :-/
> 

I think better isn't just reproducing the music better, but adding depth 
to it - not by adding extra notes.

It's like wine - anyone can make *wine* - but what make a wine good....


>> I could believe that.  I think just learning what music is, how to 
>> read it and even just hum it are a great start - I can't even do 
>> that.  I've 'learned' how to read sheet music at various times in my 
>> life - just never used it enough to actually remember any of it.
> 
> Heh. It's 10 years since the last time I seriously tried to read music. 
> I've now been learning this Toccata for so long, it's almost comming 
> back to me. ;-)
> 
> Being able to read and/or write music isn't the same as being able to 
> play it. I'm more concerned with being able to play it.
> 

I guess you are right there - knowing is something completely different 
that doing.

I've heard songs that were sung by the author that enveloped you in what 
it was saying - then I've heard the same song to the same tune sung by a 
*good* singer only to find it stale and missing something.


>> Oh to be able to play something from within my head that actually made 
>> people smile.....
> 
> Amen!
> 
> Most people look at this YouTube video and go "that's nice dear". 
> Doesn't do justice to the 3 months I spent reaching this level...
> 

But that's just it - there are very people who actually look at the 
effort that someone put into something.  They look at the surface - is 
it good or not.  They judge you against the naturals who can do things 
with out thinking and without practice.  We see it all the time - 
acting, sports, work, etc....

Also, a lot of people that you talk to may not really care about what 
you are doing - so your accomplishment really means nothing.  It's like 
me stating that I can run 100m in 11.5s to a lazy fat history teacher. 
So what....  that's not 9.69.

No those who know what you are doing and at least understand it some 
know how difficult it can be.  Not everyone can run 100m in 11.5s - not 
everyone can play that piece of music.  Especially someone who had tried 
to play it, but couldn't.  They may praise you.









Tom


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: It's here!
Date: 5 Nov 2008 16:06:44
Message: <49120ae4@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Now... how well did you think I played it? :-P

I've heard it done professionally better, but never better as a hobby, 
shall we say? It's clear you haven't perfected it but that you want to? :-)

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: It's here!
Date: 5 Nov 2008 16:13:48
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Darren New wrote:

> I've heard it done professionally better, but never better as a hobby, 
> shall we say? It's clear you haven't perfected it but that you want to? :-)

Well, for a start I only played 2 of the 3 staffs in that particular 
performance... I *have* a recording of me playing the other two. I shall 
probably unload that sometime.

I think you'd be hard-pressed to play a virtuoso on that particular 
organ. The key action is just so heavy. But I might be wrong there...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: It's here!
Date: 5 Nov 2008 16:22:13
Message: <49120EDB.9030501@hotmail.com>
On 05-Nov-08 22:13, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> 
>> I've heard it done professionally better, but never better as a hobby, 
>> shall we say? It's clear you haven't perfected it but that you want 
>> to? :-)
> 
> Well, for a start I only played 2 of the 3 staffs in that particular 
> performance... I *have* a recording of me playing the other two. 

Your spelling seems to have improved a bit recently (do you use a spell 
checker now?). Your math still is somewhat shaky.


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