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From: scott
Subject: Re: XBOX fun (or trying not to take a hammer to my router...)
Date: 6 Nov 2008 03:13:03
Message: <4912a70f@news.povray.org>
> Gah.. All I need, an open network with two other machines already on it, 
> for how ever long it takes for me to figure out that the frell the problem 
> is..

Nobody is going to hack your xbox, especially if it's not even connected to 
the network properly :-) And presumably the other PC will only be connected 
for brief periods to change router settings?  If you're really paranoid, 
then just make sure the firewall on the PC is fully on before you connect to 
the router.

> Note, it **can't be** the security though, since I already got "past" that 
> part. If it was, then it would have failed, as it was initially doing, at 
> step 2, not step 3. Its almost certainly something else, some place. :p

That thing where it "connects" but doesn't get an IP, I had that happen when 
the machine was not in the MAC "allow" list.  Anyway, I think the 1st step 
is definitely to reset the router to its default settings, that will at 
least give you some further information about the problem, whether it works 
or not.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: XBOX fun (or trying not to take a hammer to my router...)
Date: 6 Nov 2008 12:39:45
Message: <49132be1$1@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott wrote:
> OK... Anyone here have an XBOX 360 and a Linksys WRT150N router, and can 
> tell me why the hell if fails to connect in the test phase for getting 
> an IP?

BTW, since you're going to assign a constant IP address anyway, why not 
just set the XBox to have a static IP address? Can you do that with the 
wireless frob? It's easy with the wired one.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: XBOX fun (or trying not to take a hammer to my router...)
Date: 6 Nov 2008 14:20:17
Message: <49134371$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> Gah.. All I need, an open network with two other machines already on 
>> it, for how ever long it takes for me to figure out that the frell the 
>> problem is..
> 
> Nobody is going to hack your xbox, especially if it's not even connected 
> to the network properly :-) And presumably the other PC will only be 
> connected for brief periods to change router settings?  If you're really 
> paranoid, then just make sure the firewall on the PC is fully on before 
> you connect to the router.
> 
Well, not real worried about it, in point of fact, I just don't like 
fracking with something that is working, to fix something that I, 
frankly, would find "convenient", but is not at all necessary.

>> Note, it **can't be** the security though, since I already got "past" 
>> that part. If it was, then it would have failed, as it was initially 
>> doing, at step 2, not step 3. Its almost certainly something else, 
>> some place. :p
> 
> That thing where it "connects" but doesn't get an IP, I had that happen 
> when the machine was not in the MAC "allow" list.  Anyway, I think the 
> 1st step is definitely to reset the router to its default settings, that 
> will at least give you some further information about the problem, 
> whether it works or not.
> 
I have given up at this point. Seems that this router, for other people, 
either a) doesn't give out the IP at all, due to some cheap ass design 
of the damn dongle and what it does support (one person suggested buying 
a cheap wireless router that will work as a transmitter, then reflash it 
with firmware that turns it into a dongle, instead of a router..), or, 
b) it connects, but then, no matter how good the signal is, disconnects 
are random intervals, rendering it useless anyway. In all cases, it 
works fine with anything ***not*** made to specifically plug into the 
XBOX. lol

The only solution seems to be to wait to see if they put out a fireware 
version that actually works with the dongle (not sure how you even tell, 
without flashing it and trying), or just buy some far cheaper, less 
advanced, and shorter range, router, which is in the "somehow these do 
work" list.

And, again, its "in" the allow list, so that's not the issue. If its in 
the "don't allow" this router won't even allow it to get past the 
"connected" stage, it just refuses the connection completely.

-- 
void main () {

     if version = "Vista" {
       call slow_by_half();
       call DRM_everything();
     }
     call functional_code();
   }
   else
     call crash_windows();
}

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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: XBOX fun (or trying not to take a hammer to my router...)
Date: 6 Nov 2008 16:02:42
Message: <49135b72@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Yeah. Think I tried that before, but maybe not. The info online seems
> damn useless, and mostly amounts to "reset everything back to defaults,
> and if that doesn't work, either hardline it, or buy one that does
> work", which I suppose is useful for some moron that has more money than
> brains.. lol

Welcome to USA.

*runs like hell*


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: XBOX fun (or trying not to take a hammer to my router...)
Date: 12 Nov 2008 17:25:37
Message: <491b57e1$1@news.povray.org>
<--twitches..

Wasn't the router at all. Somehow, and I can't imagine how the hell this 
happens, given that I never "changed" any settings prior to trying to 
set the bloody thing up, the "defaults" for something to do with access 
in the XBOX isn't where messed up. Got a new issue of OXM, was fiddling 
around and decided.. what they hell, as long as it doesn't wipe 
"everything" to restore the factory defaults for the wireless, lets do 
that. Then:

Wireless - Connected
Security step - Connected
IP step - Connected
etc.

Sat there just staring at the thing thinking, "How the fuck do you ship 
someone a hard drive which has the settings for networking already 
fucked up, so it won't work like this the first time?"

Now.. I got all the OXM stuff I have added up, on a non-live profile, 
which isn't transferable, and which I therefor have to bloody redo (and 
that includes, replaying Halo 3 on Easy and Normal, while trying to 
remember how to unlock the stuff I have in it, the replaying up to where 
I am in Hard, now..) Apparently, its too damn hard for them to let you 
say, "This 'offline' profile is the same as the online profile, please 
copy any "existing" data over, and even more idiotic, if you logged in 
to try to do anything online via the web, thus making a gamer ID, you 
have to "recover" it, since, despite there being a "Yes, I already have 
one", option, if its not "on" your HDD already, it can't get it from the 
server either, until/unless you "recover my gamer ID" (Gives you an "You 
can't do that at this time" error, which is the same as what you, 
apparently, get if you enter the wrong password {like that makes sense 
at all})..

You can tell this idiotic stuff was written by the same morons that did 
the integration of features in Windows... lol

-- 
void main () {

     if version = "Vista" {
       call slow_by_half();
       call DRM_everything();
     }
     call functional_code();
   }
   else
     call crash_windows();
}

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3D Content, and 3D Software at DAZ3D!</A>


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