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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: My colour is blue
Date: 2 Nov 2008 16:06:45
Message: <490e1665@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> "My colour is blue. I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to 
> pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am 
> brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold. My 
> symbol is a water droplet. My enemies are green and red."
> 
> This is *so* begging for a parody...
> 

Think they got something wrong there.. In my experience, people that 
value knowledge and logic ***despise*** deceit, its the insane people 
that value wishful thinking and *belief* that use deceit all the time to 
not just lie about everyone that doesn't think like they do, but prop up 
the beliefs, so they can pretend that "wishing" does something for anybody.

Then again, this is damn near the modern American standard for 
"immoral". If you value knowledge, instead of wallowing in ignorance, 
you use logic, instead of tradition, then you are a) immoral, b) 
probably an atheist, c) liberal, d) elitist, and e) Anti-American. Where 
did you find this gem, the AFA website? lol

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: My colour is blue
Date: 2 Nov 2008 16:19:02
Message: <490e1946@news.povray.org>
>>> Didn't know you were into Magic:The Gathering.
>>
>> I'm not. This is some random person's signature on a message board 
>> somewhere.
> 
> Ah. It's refering the the Magic:The gathering card game. There are 5 
> colours of magic; red, blue, green, white and black

Yeah. I remember that from my initial research. ;-)

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From: Gail
Subject: Re: My colour is blue
Date: 2 Nov 2008 16:59:43
Message: <490e22cf@news.povray.org>
"Patrick Elliott" <sel### [at] npgcablecom> wrote in message 
news:490e1665@news.povray.org...
>
> Think they got something wrong there.. In my experience, people that value 
> knowledge and logic ***despise*** deceit, its the insane people that value 
> wishful thinking and *belief* that use deceit all the time to not just lie 
> about everyone that doesn't think like they do, but prop up the beliefs, 
> so they can pretend that "wishing" does something for anybody.

It's got nothing to do with people. It's talking about colours of magic for 
a card game and the traits those colour embody.

White is order, righteousness, healing, law, community.
Green is life, nature, evolution, interdependence.
Blue is intellect, reason, illusion, trickery, dreams
Red is chaos, destruction, passion, fury, freedom
Black is death, power, ambition, greed, corruption.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: My colour is blue
Date: 3 Nov 2008 04:07:14
Message: <490ebf42@news.povray.org>
Gail wrote:

> I don't actually play the game, though I know people who do. I havew a 
> bunch of cards though. They make great bookmarks.

I got as far as reading the rules of the game.

Ouch.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: My colour is blue
Date: 3 Nov 2008 04:30:00
Message: <web.490ec3ec23dd7dce208d05c80@news.povray.org>
"Gail" <gail (at) sql in the wild (dot) co [dot] za> wrote:
> "Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
> news:490da65b@news.povray.org...
> > Gail wrote:
> >
> >> Didn't know you were into Magic:The Gathering.
> >
> > I'm not. This is some random person's signature on a message board
> > somewhere.
>
> Ah. It's refering the the Magic:The gathering card game. There are 5 colours
> of magic; red, blue, green, white and black

I thought the colour of magic was Octarine. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_Discworld_concepts#Octarine


Stephen


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From: Gail
Subject: Re: My colour is blue
Date: 3 Nov 2008 05:22:41
Message: <490ed0f1@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:490ebf42@news.povray.org...
> Gail wrote:
>
>> I don't actually play the game, though I know people who do. I havew a 
>> bunch of cards though. They make great bookmarks.
>
> I got as far as reading the rules of the game.
>
> Ouch.

Yeah. It's complex. It's got more and more so over the years as more options 
are added, more card types, etc.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: My colour is blue
Date: 3 Nov 2008 05:52:53
Message: <490ed805$1@news.povray.org>
>> I got as far as reading the rules of the game.
>>
>> Ouch.
> 
> Yeah. It's complex. It's got more and more so over the years as more 
> options are added, more card types, etc.

Yeah. Like somebody said "each turn you lay down a card and then the 
other person does"... and sure, that's "essentially" how you play it... 
but the Official rules are *way* more complicated than that! Each turn 
there are half a dozen optional things you can do if you want to ("but 
usually players don't"), and rules that apply in special obscure cases 
and... Jesus, does anybody actually *play* this game?! o_O

Still, the only reason I enquired was this:

http://www.bash.org/?106851


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From: Gail
Subject: Re: My colour is blue
Date: 3 Nov 2008 09:04:22
Message: <490f04e6@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:490ed805$1@news.povray.org...
>>> I got as far as reading the rules of the game.
>>>
>>> Ouch.
>>
>> Yeah. It's complex. It's got more and more so over the years as more 
>> options are added, more card types, etc.
>
> Yeah. Like somebody said "each turn you lay down a card and then the other 
> person does"... and sure, that's "essentially" how you play it...

More accuratly, each turn you tap your lands, play some creatures (to block 
or attack) and cast some spells

>  Jesus, does anybody actually *play* this game?! o_O

Lots. There are lots of tournaments every year all over the world. If
I visit the local gaming shop over the weekend, there'll be anywhere between
3 and 5 games in progress. At gaming conventions there are usually hundreds
of people playing.

You think it would still be around and still getting additions, new chapters
and the like if no one played it?


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: My colour is blue
Date: 3 Nov 2008 09:08:38
Message: <490f05e6@news.povray.org>
>> Yeah. Like somebody said "each turn you lay down a card and then the 
>> other person does"... and sure, that's "essentially" how you play it...
> 
> More accuratly, each turn you tap your lands, play some creatures (to 
> block or attack) and cast some spells

Indeed. But looking at the Official rules... well let me put it this 
way. If you need to actually include a flowchart just to explain what 
the rules are, the rules are too complicated. :-P

>>  Jesus, does anybody actually *play* this game?! o_O
> 
> Lots. There are lots of tournaments every year all over the world.
> 
> You think it would still be around and still getting additions, new 
> chapters and the like if no one played it?

Logically, I guess not. But on the other hand, the game seems too 
absurdly complicated to actually play...

(Also... how do you know it's still getting new additions? Oh, wait, 
it's Gail. Heh. OK, I rephrase: how would anybody else know that?)

BTW, I attempted to visit the official site shortly after this thread 
began. But I figured I'd have to cast some kind of time-travel spell to 
get to the part where the site finishes loading. Jesus it was slow! o_O


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From: Gail
Subject: Re: My colour is blue
Date: 3 Nov 2008 09:34:02
Message: <490f0bda@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:490f05e6@news.povray.org...

> Indeed. But looking at the Official rules... well let me put it this way. 
> If you need to actually include a flowchart just to explain what the rules 
> are, the rules are too complicated. :-P

Why do you think I don't play? (other than the cost of all the cards)

> (Also... how do you know it's still getting new additions? Oh, wait, it's 
> Gail. Heh. OK, I rephrase: how would anybody else know that?)

I'm a gamer. Roleplaying, not cards, but the news still gets around and many 
people play both
New Magic additions are as much news as new roleplaying books or new 
editions of games. Also I usually visit gaming shops every couple months and 
see the Magic cards (and all the other collectable card games) on sale. Add 
to that the posters advertising new releases at the shops, on the websites 
and at conventions.

It's kinda like asking if you would know when a new edition of Haskall is 
released.

If you were into the game, you'd probably visit forums on it daily, plus the 
official site and know months in advance about new additions. I just know 
there are ones. Don't know how recent, don't know the names of the latest 
expansions

> BTW, I attempted to visit the official site shortly after this thread 
> began. But I figured I'd have to cast some kind of time-travel spell to 
> get to the part where the site finishes loading. Jesus it was slow! o_O

Yeah. Wizards is pretty good at games, terrible at websites and web apps.
You're lucky it loads at all. I keep getting errors. It worked a lot better 
(faster, more reliable) before they decided to move the entire site to 
flash.

You can skip the entire opening flash movie. Doesn't make it much faster 
though
http://www.wizards.com/magic/TCG/Default.aspx


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