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On 15-Oct-08 7:50, Stephen wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:13:05 +0200, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmail com> wrote:
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>>> Whether you think it's logical or not is your call.
>> indeed, and I think it is totally nonsense. It may be true for some
>> class of carpenters. Mainly for those with no relevant education and no
>> skills in carpentry. Either the lowest ranking on the job or the
>> manager.
>
> That sounds a bit like snobbery to me.
Why? I have seen quite a few skillful carpenters and constructors (or
whatever their job description is in English) in mechanical workshops
and I have simply never seen any indication that any size was more
special to them than others. So I think it is logical to assume that
anyone who thinks 40 is more basic than 33 is forcing himself to think
in numbers in stead of in materials.
Which is of course also a generalization from my own experience. I am an
extremely bad carpenter and that is one of the major reasons. Which
raises another interesting question: can you be snobbish towards yourself?
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On 15 Oct 2008 15:53:26 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:25:07 +0100, Stephen wrote:
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>> government often re-brand companies
>
>Huh? Over here, companies may rebrand, but the goverment doesn't do
>that. (We just give the failing ones money ;-) ).
>
In living memory, the GPO (General Post Office) turned into the PO then Royal
Mail and BT (British Telecom) which split off its mobile (cell) arm to O2 all
changes needed rebranding. The telephone system changed its numbering so all
companies had to reprint their headed papers and adverts. (London went from 01
to 071 for inner London and 081 for outer London then to 0171 and 0181 now it is
0207 and 0208)
>> enough for the bible then it's good enough for me, attitude) And Wales
>> and parts of Scotland have dual language signs.
>
>True, hadn't thought about that.
>
And why should you?
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Stephen
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On 15 Oct 2008 15:56:07 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:30:34 +0100, Stephen wrote:
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>> I am contradicting you tonight :P.
>
>You are. Stop it. ;-)
>
OK
(If you stop being wrong :)
>> On my car the kph is on the inside
>> and it is in red so that it does not distract (I think) this was not
>> helpful to me when I drove it for 9 months on the continent a few years
>> ago and could not make out the speed at night.
>
>Ouch.
>
No worries my wife can tell the speed blindfolded (Only half joking)
>>>More fun in your head is to convert the cost there to US dollars per US
>>>gallon....
>>
>> If only the exchange rate would stay the same at the end of a journey as
>> it was at the beginning :)
>
>Well, yeah, that would be useful. It was more stable when we were last
>there.
>
>Still not favourable to us, though.
>
It works for us :)
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Regards
Stephen
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On 15-Oct-08 1:08, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Oh, my observation is that in the US, odometers (distance measures in
>> the dashboard) read in tenths of miles, permanent signs are in halves
>> and quarters of miles (as in, "next exit 2 1/2 miles") and temporary
>> signs are in thousands of feet (as in "road construction 2000 feet").
>
> What the F***
hmm, newsgroup rules here strongly discourage using such words. I know
it is simply writing out loud WTF, but that is also on the edge of what
can be allowed here and might stand for something different.
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:20:23 +0100, Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom>
wrote:
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>LondonPovCon? Anything ever come of BrumPovCon? I'll keep my ears to the
>ground, whichever.
>
No, it was more scary than Beirut in the 60's <ducks and runs>
I might be coming "Op North" for a while Warrington/Manchester and been talking
PovCon.
>Haha, reminds me of a joke. The Lone Ranger and Tonto are riding across
>the desert, when Tonto stops and puts his head to the dust.
>"Buffalo come," he intones.
>"That's amazing," says the Lone Ranger, "How can you tell?"
>"Ear stuck to ground."
>
>:-)
Reminds me of a joke. "What do you mean "we" white man?
PC rules :)
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Regards
Stephen
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:16:22 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
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>Of course, space ships are just like ocean ships, so of course you use
>military terms in space, yes? ;-)
Yes, unless its British space ships then its just like public school (or so they
tell me).
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Stephen
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:16:03 +0100, Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom>
wrote:
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>Yup, SF vs sci-fi, sorry. Joe Haldeman's a favourite of mine, read any
>of his? The Forever War is a particularly scintillating military-based
>novel.
>
Me too
>> Of course, space ships are just like ocean ships, so of course you use
>> military terms in space, yes? ;-)
>
>There's Klingons off the starboard bow, cap'n
It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim, dead, Jim, dead, Jim;
it's worse than that, he's dead, Jim, dead, Jim, dead.
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Regards
Stephen
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:46:35 +0200, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> That sounds a bit like snobbery to me.
>
>Why? I have seen quite a few skillful carpenters and constructors (or
>whatever their job description is in English) in mechanical workshops
>and I have simply never seen any indication that any size was more
>special to them than others. So I think it is logical to assume that
>anyone who thinks 40 is more basic than 33 is forcing himself to think
>in numbers in stead of in materials.
I think that this is a cultural thing and I am guilty of being British.
Engineers and artisans are looked down on in the UK (but not on the Continent)
Reading it with British eyes it sounded to me as if you were being condescending
to "those with no relevant education and no skills in carpentry" Anyway it is
(IMO) with what you are brought up with.
>Which is of course also a generalization from my own experience. I am an
>extremely bad carpenter and that is one of the major reasons. Which
>raises another interesting question: can you be snobbish towards yourself?
Oh yes and there is inverted snobery as well :)
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Regards
Stephen
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:17:04 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>Anyway it is
>(IMO) with what you are brought up with.
Depends on what you are brought up with.
(My fingers are having a nervous breakdown. I'm using a Nordic keyboard mapped
to a UK one and my touch typing is not too good)
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Stephen
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:51:51 +0200, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
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>> What the F***
>
>hmm, newsgroup rules here strongly discourage using such words. I know
>it is simply writing out loud WTF, but that is also on the edge of what
>can be allowed here and might stand for something different.
:-)
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Stephen
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