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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Research
Date: 13 Oct 2008 08:44:11
Message: <48f3429b@news.povray.org>
Kyle wrote:

> It's always more exciting to stick your tongue to it.  ;-)

"Exciting" is one way to put it. :-P


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Research
Date: 13 Oct 2008 08:48:13
Message: <48f3438d$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> Fuses do not act fast enough to stop you getting a lethal dose of 
> current. That's why RCD devices are used.

Maybe. Personally I'd prefer to avoid having to find out either way. ;-)

>> That worked for about 20 minutes, and then the ends unhooked. 
>> Frustrated, my dad picked up the ends again... and then got up off the 
>> floor and UNPLUGED THE HEATER before repeating this action. ;-)
> 
> Luckily I guess the shock disconnected him from the supply before any 
> serious damage was done.

Er, yeah.

The closest thing I've done it touch an electric fence. Jesus, no WONDER 
the cattle stay the **** away from that thing! o_O

Of course, it isn't permanently live, it pulses. Was quite funny 
watching the class idiot try this, actually. (This was on a different 
day.) I walk up to the fence, briefly tap it, and loudly yell "oh, it's 
not turned on". Class idiot saunters over and grips it. "Hey, no, it 
isn't o-ho-HUGG!" Looked like somebody had just kicked him.

Ah, we really hated that guy...

> if, for some reason, the shock made him grip 
> the ends tighter then he would have likely died.  I have seen several 
> people who "flick" the end of a wire to see if it is live or not.  I 
> think it's the amount of time as well as the current, plus how well you 
> are connected to other stuff etc.  PErsonally, I wouldn't want to risk it!

My dad has also been hit by lightning, FWIW.

Basically, the dude is unkillable! >:-D

(And I inherited his genes...)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Research
Date: 13 Oct 2008 09:21:40
Message: <48f34b64@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> For example, that plug you use to plug normal equipment into the 
> electricity grid. Apparently there's a name for it. It's called "BS 
> 1363". (Memorable, eh?)

  The model used here is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Research
Date: 13 Oct 2008 09:38:39
Message: <48f34f5f$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   The model used here is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko

I see. So you can't put your fingers behind the plug while plugging it 
in without shearing your fingertips off. Well, that's another way to 
solve that problem. ;-)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Research
Date: 13 Oct 2008 09:47:59
Message: <48f3518f$1@news.povray.org>
>>   The model used here is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko
>
> I see. So you can't put your fingers behind the plug while plugging it in 
> without shearing your fingertips off. Well, that's another way to solve 
> that problem. ;-)

I don't know about Finland, but here in Germany only higher power/earthed 
equipment uses the Schuko plug, for lower powered stuff usually the Europlug 
is used (which also fits into the Schuko sockets fine of course).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug

You can buy multi-way mains extensions with sockets for combinations of 
schuko and europlug, quite handy for eg an office because a lot of equipment 
(phone chargers, laptop PSUs etc) uses Europlug and the sockets are much 
smaller.

Also from that page above:

"It is, in principle, possible to insert a Europlug into a BS 1363 socket by 
inserting another object (such as a screwdriver or key) into the earth hole 
first."

:-)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Research
Date: 13 Oct 2008 09:54:21
Message: <48f3530d$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> I don't know about Finland, but here in Germany only higher 
> power/earthed equipment uses the Schuko plug, for lower powered stuff 
> usually the Europlug is used (which also fits into the Schuko sockets 
> fine of course).
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug

Interesting. That looks rather like the plug you often find on electric 
shavers here. (Some bathrooms have a suitable socket for such a thing.)

> You can buy multi-way mains extensions with sockets for combinations of 
> schuko and europlug, quite handy for eg an office because a lot of 
> equipment (phone chargers, laptop PSUs etc) uses Europlug and the 
> sockets are much smaller.

Now, see, in the UK, *everything* comes with a single type of plug, and 
*all* sockets are of a single type. (The only real exception being 
shavers. And these invariably come with an adaptor plug.)

> Also from that page above:
> 
> "It is, in principle, possible to insert a Europlug into a BS 1363 
> socket by inserting another object (such as a screwdriver or key) into 
> the earth hole first."
> 
> :-)

I am *so* not trying that! :-/


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Research
Date: 13 Oct 2008 10:15:35
Message: <48f35807$1@news.povray.org>
> Now, see, in the UK, *everything* comes with a single type of plug, and 
> *all* sockets are of a single type. (The only real exception being 
> shavers. And these invariably come with an adaptor plug.)

Oh I forgot, we also have this type in Germany too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CEE_7-17_plug.jpg

It is for higher current devices that don't need Earth (eg hairdryers), fits 
in the Schuko socket but the plug is not as big.

> I am *so* not trying that! :-/

It was an emergency, my laptop needed to be recharged!


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Research
Date: 13 Oct 2008 10:27:54
Message: <48f35aea$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> Now, see, in the UK, *everything* comes with a single type of plug, 
>> and *all* sockets are of a single type. (The only real exception being 
>> shavers. And these invariably come with an adaptor plug.)
> 
> Oh I forgot, we also have this type in Germany too:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CEE_7-17_plug.jpg

Looks pretty much identical to me...

>> I am *so* not trying that! :-/
> 
> It was an emergency, my laptop needed to be recharged!

Um, noooo... the "emergency" is when you arrive at A&E with a heart that 
isn't beating any more. ;-)


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Research
Date: 13 Oct 2008 10:32:15
Message: <48f35bef$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> scott wrote:
>>> Now, see, in the UK, *everything* comes with a single type of plug,
>>> and *all* sockets are of a single type. (The only real exception
>>> being shavers. And these invariably come with an adaptor plug.)
>>
>> Oh I forgot, we also have this type in Germany too:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CEE_7-17_plug.jpg
> 
> Looks pretty much identical to me...
> 
>>> I am *so* not trying that! :-/
>>
>> It was an emergency, my laptop needed to be recharged!
> 
> Um, noooo... the "emergency" is when you arrive at A&E with a heart that
> isn't beating any more. ;-)

Whereupon they connect you to a massive electrical kick. :-)

-- 
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Research
Date: 13 Oct 2008 10:40:30
Message: <48f35dde$1@news.povray.org>
Doctor John wrote:

>> Um, noooo... the "emergency" is when you arrive at A&E with a heart that
>> isn't beating any more. ;-)
> 
> Whereupon they connect you to a massive electrical kick. :-)

Massive and very carefully timed. ;-)


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