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http://changelog.complete.org/posts/741-From-Dell,-a-Uniquely-Terrible-Experience.html
Sweet...
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
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http://changelog.complete.org/posts/741-From-Dell,-a-Uniquely-Terrible-Experience.html
What I find more puzzling is some of the answers to that blog entry.
Some people seem to think that receiving unsolicited junk mail is *normal*,
and that you should simply live with it. After all, it's not all that much
of a nuisance, isn't it? They seem to think that if someone actually does
something to enforce his legal rights to not to receive unsolicited junk
mail, he is being a prick.
IMO companies should be put in their places. Invading people's privacy,
no matter how lightly, without their consent is never acceptable.
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Warp wrote:
> What I find more puzzling is some of the answers to that blog entry.
>
> Some people seem to think that receiving unsolicited junk mail is *normal*,
> and that you should simply live with it. After all, it's not all that much
> of a nuisance, isn't it? They seem to think that if someone actually does
> something to enforce his legal rights to not to receive unsolicited junk
> mail, he is being a prick.
>
> IMO companies should be put in their places. Invading people's privacy,
> no matter how lightly, without their consent is never acceptable.
I'm with you on this one...
I've actually been thinking about charging companies for the time I have
to waste securely destroying the "HERE IS YOUR PRIORITY LOAN
APPLICATION!" forms they keep sending me with my personal data
preprinted on them. If I were to just throw these in the bin, no doubt
some evil person could use them to steal my identity. So I have to spend
time and effort destroying them properly.
Now if *I* were to inconvinience *them* in such a manner, surely they
would charge me for their time? But I somehow suspect if I tried to
invoice them for *my* wasted time, I wouldn't actually see any money...
By the way... I have no idea if this is true or not. It probably isn't.
But it's very amusing anyway... The story goes that some guy took all
the prepaid form return envelopes he'd been sent, filled them all with
penny coins (nearly worthless, but quite heavy) and mailed them back.
The advertisers were charged additional postage due to the heavy items.
When they complained, the guy said he had mailed the money to them by
mistake, AND DEMANDED THEY RETURN THE FUNDS! So the companies had to
expend more money posting cheques to him.
Like I said, probably completely ficticious, but very amusing none the
less... ;-)
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
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> Like I said, probably completely ficticious, but very amusing none the
> less... ;-)
>
It has to be true - I've read it from the Internet.
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Warp wrote:
> of a nuisance, isn't it? They seem to think that if someone actually does
> something to enforce his legal rights to not to receive unsolicited junk
> mail, he is being a prick.
Until I read this, I didn't know one had legal rights to prevent such
mailings...
> IMO companies should be put in their places. Invading people's privacy,
> no matter how lightly, without their consent is never acceptable.
I fail to see how this is an invasion of privacy.
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Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieee org> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > of a nuisance, isn't it? They seem to think that if someone actually does
> > something to enforce his legal rights to not to receive unsolicited junk
> > mail, he is being a prick.
> Until I read this, I didn't know one had legal rights to prevent such
> mailings...
Once again, when we talk about what's "legal" and not, we should immediately
take into account the country we are speaking about.
In many countries (like here) individuals have the right to demand
companies to remove their personal information from their databases so
that they will not send junk nor make any calls anymore.
> > IMO companies should be put in their places. Invading people's privacy,
> > no matter how lightly, without their consent is never acceptable.
> I fail to see how this is an invasion of privacy.
If you started every day putting some dog droppings into your neighbour's
mailbox, I'm pretty sure you would be stopped sooner than later, by legal
means. I don't know if the technical legal term has the word "privacy" in
it, but that's not really relevant.
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Warp wrote:
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> In many countries (like here) individuals have the right to demand
> companies to remove their personal information from their databases so
> that they will not send junk nor make any calls anymore.
>
IIRC the law in Finland says that you can demand A) to get told every
detail they have of you and B) remove that information from any database
of any firm.
Dunno though, I guess there'll be some obstacles, if you'll try to ie.
remove your credit-failing information from the banks database by that
law :).
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>
http://changelog.complete.org/posts/741-From-Dell,-a-Uniquely-Terrible-Experience.html
>
> Sweet...
Someone has too much spare time on their hands... TO put that much effort
in if he had received a faulty product etc, ok, but to spend that much time
over a catalogue once a month!?!?!? WTF? I wish I had enough time to do
that for all the catalogues, magazines and newspapers I get for free.
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scott wrote:
> Someone has too much spare time on their hands...
Probably. But I'd sure like to get Blackhorse Finance to stop sending me
loan offers. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to arrange that.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have an lambda interpretter to debug...
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> If you started every day putting some dog droppings into your neighbour's
> mailbox, I'm pretty sure you would be stopped sooner than later, by legal
> means.
That's slightly different to a catalogue though. Is there really a law that
prevents anyone from putting anything (sensible) in a mailbox if they
haven't been asked to? I guess it's a small price to pay for the
convenience of not having to go to the post office every morning to get your
mail.
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