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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: LHC
Date: 4 Aug 2008 14:51:46
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Mmm, really?

Yeah.

> "Simmons turned on the surgical unit" - which consists of two rotating 
> blades that you have to sneak past to get to the controls to turn the 
> thing off. 

Oh yeah. That surgical unit. :-)

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: LHC
Date: 4 Aug 2008 14:55:01
Message: <48975085$1@news.povray.org>
>> "Simmons turned on the surgical unit" - which consists of two rotating 
>> blades that you have to sneak past to get to the controls to turn the 
>> thing off. 
> 
> Oh yeah. That surgical unit. :-)

Quoting The Shaddow: "Oh, *that* knife."

Seriously.

1. What's so "surgical" about two blades rotating through space that 
kill you instantly if you touch them?

2. Why would such a leathal device not have emergency stop buttons all 
over the friggin' place?

The answer, obviously, is that this wouldn't make very exciting 
gameplay. ;-) But that's still a kinda unsatisfying answer...

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: LHC
Date: 4 Aug 2008 15:22:36
Message: <489756fc$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> 
> 2. Why would such a leathal device not have emergency stop buttons all 
> over the friggin' place?
> 

Actually, I think E-Stop is required for anything that moves. We have a 
mill saw that cuts pieces by moving them on a conveyor, there's a trip 
wire around the whole thing that is connected directly to the E-Stop. 
Also, I believe e-stop has to be wired as a normally closed switch, 
meaning if the wires to the button failed, e-stop would be automatic.

> The answer, obviously, is that this wouldn't make very exciting 
> gameplay. ;-) But that's still a kinda unsatisfying answer...

Yeah, if they modeled levels on reality, they'd be rather dull and 
uninteresting. So, you get things like an off switch buried deep inside 
something that looks like a large industrial grade meat grinder that can 
be pressed if you time it just so ... or come out the other end of the 
machine in a sausage casing. OSHA would have a field day with that one.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: LHC
Date: 4 Aug 2008 15:53:52
Message: <48975e50$1@news.povray.org>
>> 2. Why would such a leathal device not have emergency stop buttons all 
>> over the friggin' place?
> 
> Actually, I think E-Stop is required for anything that moves. We have a 
> mill saw that cuts pieces by moving them on a conveyor, there's a trip 
> wire around the whole thing that is connected directly to the E-Stop. 
> Also, I believe e-stop has to be wired as a normally closed switch, 
> meaning if the wires to the button failed, e-stop would be automatic.

Sounds plausible to me... (Although presumably it depends how close 
human being will be getting to the thing?)

>> The answer, obviously, is that this wouldn't make very exciting 
>> gameplay. ;-) But that's still a kinda unsatisfying answer...
> 
> Yeah, if they modeled levels on reality, they'd be rather dull and 
> uninteresting.

Well... perhaps not if you moddelled it if after the Large Hadron 
Collider. ;-)

> So, you get things like an off switch buried deep inside 
> something that looks like a large industrial grade meat grinder that can 
> be pressed if you time it just so ... or come out the other end of the 
> machine in a sausage casing. OSHA would have a field day with that one.

LOL! I field day is *exactly* what they would have with most of the 
Halflife game. (Although admittedly some of it only *became* unsafe 
after the accident.)

I gotta admit, I kinda love the reverse psychology of the warning signs 
though. ("Do not obstruct laser." Oh, OK, that must mean I need to 
obstruct the laser to advance to the next level...)

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: LHC
Date: 4 Aug 2008 15:57:53
Message: <48975f41@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> Actually, I think E-Stop is required for anything that moves.

Except, of course, in a secret underground military scientific research 
center breaching the walls of space-time.

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  Ever notice how people in a zombie movie never already know how to
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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: LHC
Date: 4 Aug 2008 16:00:49
Message: <48975ff1$1@news.povray.org>
> Except, of course, in a secret underground military scientific research 
> center breaching the walls of space-time.

Disaster Responce Priority: Discretionary.

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: LHC
Date: 5 Aug 2008 07:51:06
Message: <48983eaa$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> 2. Why would such a leathal device not have emergency stop buttons 
>>> all over the friggin' place?
>>
>> Actually, I think E-Stop is required for anything that moves. We have 
>> a mill saw that cuts pieces by moving them on a conveyor, there's a 
>> trip wire around the whole thing that is connected directly to the 
>> E-Stop. Also, I believe e-stop has to be wired as a normally closed 
>> switch, meaning if the wires to the button failed, e-stop would be 
>> automatic.
> 
> Sounds plausible to me... (Although presumably it depends how close 
> human being will be getting to the thing?)
> 

Pretty close, actually. They have to be able to load the lumber into the 
machine.

> 
> LOL! I field day is *exactly* what they would have with most of the 
> Halflife game. (Although admittedly some of it only *became* unsafe 
> after the accident.)
> 
> I gotta admit, I kinda love the reverse psychology of the warning signs 
> though. ("Do not obstruct laser." Oh, OK, that must mean I need to 
> obstruct the laser to advance to the next level...)
> 

Almost reminds me of the little flash game "You Have to Burn the Rope"

http://www.mazapan.se/games/BurnTheRope.php


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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: LHC
Date: 6 Aug 2008 07:14:43
Message: <op.ufgpgerwc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:55:00 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull>  
did spake, saying:
>
> 1. What's so "surgical" about two blades rotating through space that  
> kill you instantly if you touch them?
>
> 2. Why would such a leathal device not have emergency stop buttons all  
> over the friggin' place?
>
> The answer, obviously, is that this wouldn't make very exciting  
> gameplay. ;-) But that's still a kinda unsatisfying answer...

You haven't played the early Resident Evil's have you?
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/5/3/

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