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From: St 
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 14:42:30
Message: <48765816@news.povray.org>
"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message 
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:48764f65@news.povray.org...
>> Heh... Who got the latest win update and could'nt get online yesterday? I
>> bet it was just me here. :(
>>
>
> The latest security update definitly caused 'issues'. There were lots of
> mentions of it on the SQL boards though I didn't read the details. Also 
> saw
> a query about it on the mvp newsgroups.

     Yes, I was actually quite surprised that I found the answer so quickly 
on Google. I think a lot of people probably fell into the same trap with 
their machine's setups, much like myself.


>
> I think I'll wait a couple days to see how things fall out before I 
> install.

   Well, it's not the win update Gail, that's ok, it's the relationship with 
ZA - something hasn't quite married properly this time around program-wise.

    ~Steve~


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 14:49:50
Message: <487659ce@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:48765816@news.povray.org...
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> > I think I'll wait a couple days to see how things fall out before I
> > install.
>
>    Well, it's not the win update Gail, that's ok, it's the relationship
with
> ZA - something hasn't quite married properly this time around
program-wise.
>

Yeah, but the update's doing something to SQL Server too, and that I have a
big issue with. With a mini-presentation tomorrow and 2 biggish conference
presentations in 3 weeks, I can't afford a broken laptop right now.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 14:57:01
Message: <48765b7d$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:05:10 +0100, St. wrote:

> Heh... Who got the latest win update and could'nt get online yesterday?
> I bet it was just me here.

Actually, my younger brother in Japan said he was having troubles 
intermittantly.....Hmmm, I wonder if he applied this update.

Jim


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From: St 
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 15:07:59
Message: <48765e0f$1@news.povray.org>
"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message 
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:48765816@news.povray.org...
>>
>> > I think I'll wait a couple days to see how things fall out before I
>> > install.
>>
>>    Well, it's not the win update Gail, that's ok, it's the relationship
> with
>> ZA - something hasn't quite married properly this time around
> program-wise.
>>
>
> Yeah, but the update's doing something to SQL Server too, and that I have 
> a
> big issue with. With a mini-presentation tomorrow and 2 biggish conference
> presentations in 3 weeks, I can't afford a broken laptop right now.

  Ah, I see! Sorry about that Gail, really. I hope you do ok, (as I'm sure 
you will).

    Best,

      ~Steve~


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 15:21:48
Message: <4876614c@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:48765e0f$1@news.povray.org...
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>   Ah, I see! Sorry about that Gail, really. I hope you do ok, (as I'm sure
> you will).

It'll be fine. I'm usually a couple days behind on updates anyway. I'll
install it once I have some confirmation on what it's actually doing.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 15:26:19
Message: <4876625b$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:05:10 +0100, St. wrote:
>
>> Heh... Who got the latest win update and could'nt get online yesterday?
>> I bet it was just me here.
>
> Actually, my younger brother in Japan said he was having troubles
> intermittantly.....Hmmm, I wonder if he applied this update.

 Yeah, kind of sounds like it Jim if he's using ZA too. But, it shouldn't be 
intermittant, he just won't get online. I mean, he'll be able to 'connect' 
to his ISP, (my experience), but he won't render one single web page or 
download any emails. Very frustrating, and it was like: "I trust winupdate", 
and hence me looking for other solutions. Lesson learnt.  ;)

   ~Steve~


>
> Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 15:57:42
Message: <487669b6$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:26:10 +0100, St. wrote:

> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
> news:48765b7d$1@news.povray.org...
>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:05:10 +0100, St. wrote:
>>
>>> Heh... Who got the latest win update and could'nt get online
>>> yesterday? I bet it was just me here.
>>
>> Actually, my younger brother in Japan said he was having troubles
>> intermittantly.....Hmmm, I wonder if he applied this update.
> 
>  Yeah, kind of sounds like it Jim if he's using ZA too. But, it
>  shouldn't be
> intermittant, he just won't get online. I mean, he'll be able to
> 'connect' to his ISP, (my experience), but he won't render one single
> web page or download any emails. Very frustrating, and it was like: "I
> trust winupdate", and hence me looking for other solutions. Lesson
> learnt.  ;)

:-)

I've asked him if that's a possibility, so we'll see.  Thanks for 
pointing this one out, though - I never would have found it otherwise.

Jim


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From: St 
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 16:32:03
Message: <487671c3@news.povray.org>
"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:26:10 +0100, St. wrote:

>  Lesson learnt.  ;)

> :-)

   Again...  ;)


>
> I've asked him if that's a possibility, so we'll see.  Thanks for
> pointing this one out, though - I never would have found it otherwise.

   No probs, but it is a big problem out there for the moment. (I.e., if you 
have only access to one computer and internet, how do you find the 
solution?) Basically, I was lucky and just started to back-track to what 
happened when I had the net loaded up and working. (All the stuff in between 
was a nightmare though!)  oO

    ~Steve~


>
> Jim


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 19:18:44
Message: <487698d4@news.povray.org>
Yeah, here too.  I checked a couple of known possibilities then went 
straight for the support line.  But catch22 there.  Need to be online to 
get the support line phone#.  Solution: use the neighbours' wireless 
network to find out the #.  Waited 10 minutes for a live voice, accent 
was tolerable. First thing out of his mouth? "Are you using Zone Alarm?"
Problem 'solved'.


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: GRRRR! @ updates (mild rant)
Date: 10 Jul 2008 22:48:35
Message: <MPG.22e0786dd7c0f3f798a17e@news.povray.org>
In article <487698d4@news.povray.org>, jrc### [at] msncom says...
> 
> Yeah, here too.  I checked a couple of known possibilities then went 
> straight for the support line.  But catch22 there.  Need to be online to
 
> get the support line phone#.  Solution: use the neighbours' wireless 
> network to find out the #.  Waited 10 minutes for a live voice, accent 
> was tolerable. First thing out of his mouth? "Are you using Zone Alarm?"
> Problem 'solved'.
> 
Not using ZA, AVG is always up to date, but.. Last few days, I have had 
my ISP simply disconnects, then my modem goes into "seeking", 
*eventually* get a link, then spends a bit of time syncing with there 
server. Then, it usually goes down several more times, rinse, repeat, 
until it stays up...

Probably not related to the patch, but its an odd coincidence that it 
started happening about when the patch probably hit the corporate world, 
and its damned irritating, but not *quite* as irritating as spending 5+ 
minutes waiting for some tech to get on the phone, then having the 
connecting go live again... :(

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    if version = "Vista" {
      call slow_by_half();
      call DRM_everything();
    }
    call functional_code();
  }
  else
    call crash_windows();
}

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