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Most sites keep track of the IP...
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andrel wrote:
> On 08-Jul-08 23:14, stbenge wrote:
>> The person in question would have not considered the time and
>> money wasted by these companies in pursuing a dead lead.
>
> interesting that you don't mention your own time.
The person who did this probably doesn't consider my time to be worth much.
>> This person would have also changed your name into a crude form. So
>> which is it:
>
> your ex or her new boy friend?
> If you have a kid in the range 12-16 it could be some of his/her
> 'friends'. Unless he/she is the favorite victim in class more parents
> may have your problem.
I don't have any children, but I do have an ex. None of my friends are
angry with me or are the immature type.
>> Is it possible to track down such an individual, even though he/she
>> has obviously used online forms to give out your e-mail address and
>> phone number?
>
> If done 'right' by a knowing person: no, so possibly yes.
I would have to know somebody who works at one of the companies spamming
me, yes? Even then, my info might have come from another distributer...
>> It's possible that the information was given to just a few sites which
>> then sold the info to other companies. Feedback would be appreciated~
>
> e-mail very likely, phone number unlikely I would say.
I *never* give out my phone number online. I suppose it would be
possible for somebody to hack my ISP account and find it that way, but
what anonymous hacker would go through all the trouble? It most
certainly is somebody I know personally. There is really only one person
I can think of who would do this. This person spends a great deal of
time online...
> There is
> (illegal) trade in e-mail addresses, because you can not you track down
> the person that sent the SPAM and he needs a big volume. Phone calls are
> traceable, you can not make more than one phone call at the same time
> and they cost money.
I know who calls me. They don't know who contacted them, because the
deed was done through an online form. Could a webmaster provide
information about who filled out which form?
> Unless you are in a very special segment (expensive
> (BDSM) clothes, likely to buy a big car or tractor soon or something
> like that), your phone number is worth very little.
These calls come from people who claim that I signed up for a particular
service or program. These aren't "cold" calls. They assume already that
I contacted them, which of course I didn't.
Sam
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DungBeatle wrote:
> Most sites keep track of the IP...
>
Do they need cookies for this? Considering the high volume of e-mails I
have been getting, perhaps I will get lucky and find one willing to
provide me with some info.
Know Your Enemy :)
Sam
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> Do they need cookies for this?
Nope... But if they know what they're doing, they could
spoof their IP...
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DungBeatle wrote:
>> Do they need cookies for this?
>
> Nope... But if they know what they're doing, they could
> spoof their IP...
I just went to one site which claimed in their privacy policy that they
could determine the IP address of a sender filling out a form, without
using cookies. I have made up a generic request letter, sent it to them
and will be sending out more to other companies. Hopefully I get some
bites :)
Sam
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stbenge wrote:
> I just went to one site which claimed in their privacy policy that they
> could determine the IP address of a sender filling out a form, without
> using cookies.
*Everyone* can determine the IP address of a sender filling out a form.
Welcome to packet switched networking. Enjoy your stay. ;-)
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Helpful housekeeping hints:
Check your feather pillows for holes
before putting them in the washing machine.
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Darren New wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
>> I just went to one site which claimed in their privacy policy that
>> they could determine the IP address of a sender filling out a form,
>> without using cookies.
>
> *Everyone* can determine the IP address of a sender filling out a form.
> Welcome to packet switched networking. Enjoy your stay. ;-)
Well, good. Best case scenario, I find out who the individual is, worst
case, I found out who their ISP is, correct?
I just got another phone call from a college I didn't request
information from. The man told me that my name was on a list containing
about twenty other businesses. I hope I can track the perpetrator down!
Sam
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stbenge wrote:
> Well, good. Best case scenario, I find out who the individual is, worst
> case, I found out who their ISP is, correct?
No - worst case is you get nothing. If the person is using proxy
services, it'll be hard to impossible to trace him/her.
--
In an Astronomy class (toward an Astronomy major, not that gen-ed crap)
the professor did not tell us we would have to remember constants, and
he asked them as questions. They were short questions, and weren't worth
a lot.
One of them was: What is the orbital period of Saturn? (2 pts/100)
I started thinking about Bode's law and the posibility I could calculate
it from an approximate radius I would get from that law... if I could
remember it. But when you expect a 72% to be an A on a test, you have
bigger fish to fry.
Then I got it. It was right, it should work, and no one would have to be
nailed to anything.
I wrote: One Saturn-Year
I didn't get credit for it. A couple years later a sophomore was telling
me about this funny question he had in the same class. He showed it to
me. It read:
What is the orbital period of Saturn? (Do not put one Saturn-Year)
I was so right that it had to be guarded against. Yet those were 2
points I would never have.
(as told by SetupWeasel on Slashdot)
/\ /\ /\ /
/ \/ \ u e e n / \/ a w a z
>>>>>>mue### [at] nawaz org<<<<<<
anl
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andrel wrote:
> your ex or her new boy friend?
BTW, it pays to visit social networking sites, even if you have no
intention of starting a relationship in this way.
I came across an account profile whose screen name was something along
the lines of FatWhore or something like it. The profile journal entries
were a list of confessions to being a fat slut engaging in behavior that
was high-risk (in terms of getting arrested, getting AIDS, and getting
kidnapped/murdered).
I shot an friendly e-mail to the site administrators informing them that
the profile appeared to have been crafted for the embarrassment of the
woman whose pictures appeared in the profile, and in a few days the
profile vanished from the site. I suspect that it was the work of a
dumped boyfriend or a jealous would-be boyfriend.
Anyhoo, someone could start a profile with your name on it just to get
back at you for some slight, either real or imagined.
Regards,
John
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John VanSickle wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>
>> your ex or her new boy friend?
>
> BTW, it pays to visit social networking sites, even if you have no
> intention of starting a relationship in this way.
>
#clip unfortunate_stuff;
>
> Anyhoo, someone could start a profile with your name on it just to get
> back at you for some slight, either real or imagined.
>
> Regards,
> John
Thanks for the heads-up, John. Come to think of it, my ex-gf has, in the
past, posted denigrating information about me in a public place.
Something about me seeking evil spirits because she thought third-eye
meditation was an inherently evil practice.
I'll keep my eyes open for further slights, but I won't spend too much
time looking for them...
Sam
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