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4845fdf0$1@news.povray.org...
> We must've read the same article - bbc.co.uk? I do think that there's
> more to the story than was there. The scary thing is that even as
> written, it's believable.
Here's the pic of the guy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1023560/Man-threatened-arrest-Heathrow-wearing-Transformers-T-shirt.html
Note that he has a sri lankan name. Since Sri Lanka is home to one of the
most ferocious terrorist organisations (they had cornered the whole "suicide
bombing" market until Al Qaeda came along, and they have tried to claim the
title back since) I wouldn't be surprised that people with this background
are special targets for the authorities. Perhaps this works like some spam
filters.
X-Terror-Report:
* 0.4 M_30 Young male below thirty
* 2.5 DK_SKIN Person with dark skin
* 4.5 FROM_TRR_CTRY From: country with lots of terrorists
* 4.3 CLTH_OFFENS Clothes: wearing potentially offensive message
* 8.1 BNN_IMG Image: contains banned images including guns, bombs
and nail clippers
X-Terror-Status: Yes, score=19.8 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_99,M_30 ,DK_SKIN,
FROM_TRR_CTRY ,CLTH_OFFENS,BNN_IMG
G.
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Invisible wrote:
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> AMD Athlon XP 1700+, 256 MB RAM, Windoze XP SP2, Firefox 2.0.0.9.
>
Gordon Bennett! My spare laptop's more powerful than that
:-)
John
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world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.
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>> AMD Athlon XP 1700+, 256 MB RAM, Windoze XP SP2, Firefox 2.0.0.9.
>
> Terrific state-of-art specs for a gamer and computer programmer?-)
This is the PC I have *at work*. :-P
The PC I have *at home* is an AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ with 3 GB RAM and an
nVidia GeForce 7900GT. And it works very nicely too. :-D
[It *was* a pretty good system back when I bought it. Obviously several
years on it's been superceeded by better things...]
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> You're kidding, right?
Why would the people I work for bother spending money on the guy who
swaps the backup tapes?
Put simply: I am not considered important.
I should perhaps point out that I only got *this* PC because somebody
else got a better one, so I had their old one. My previous machine was
an AMD Duron 800 MHz with 128 MB RAM. (Running Windows NT, obviously.)
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Why would the people I work for bother spending money on the guy who
> swaps the backup tapes?
And who browses the internet at work hours? ;)
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>> Why would the people I work for bother spending money on the guy who
>> swaps the backup tapes?
>
> And who browses the internet at work hours? ;)
Hey, I gotta check the Internet link is still working. ;-)
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:36:47 +0200, Gilles Tran wrote:
> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospam com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 4845fdf0$1@news.povray.org...
>> We must've read the same article - bbc.co.uk? I do think that there's
>> more to the story than was there. The scary thing is that even as
>> written, it's believable.
>
> Here's the pic of the guy.
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1023560/Man-threatened-arrest-
Heathrow-wearing-Transformers-T-shirt.html
Yeah, didn't look too threatening to me. :-)
> Note that he has a sri lankan name. Since Sri Lanka is home to one of
> the most ferocious terrorist organisations (they had cornered the whole
> "suicide bombing" market until Al Qaeda came along, and they have tried
> to claim the title back since) I wouldn't be surprised that people with
> this background are special targets for the authorities. Perhaps this
> works like some spam filters.
Ah, racial/ethnic profiling at its best. That explains a lot. :-)
> X-Terror-Report:
> * 0.4 M_30 Young male below thirty
> * 2.5 DK_SKIN Person with dark skin
> * 4.5 FROM_TRR_CTRY From: country with lots of terrorists *
> 4.3 CLTH_OFFENS Clothes: wearing potentially offensive message *
> 8.1 BNN_IMG Image: contains banned images including guns, bombs
> and nail clippers
>
> X-Terror-Status: Yes, score=19.8 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_99,M_30
> ,DK_SKIN, FROM_TRR_CTRY ,CLTH_OFFENS,BNN_IMG
You forgot on the BNN_IMG portion of the report that that list also
includes knitting needles. It probably *should* include "big
hands" (since you could cause some serious harm with big hands), but the
real filter doesn't.
Jim
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:31:18 -0400, John VanSickle wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:52:32 -0400, Warp wrote:
>>
>>> Call me nationalistic or whatever you want, but IMO the main
>>> responsibility of a government is to protect its own people.
>>
>> You don't protect the people of a nation by pissing off the rest of the
>> world, though.
>
> And you don't protect them by letting your policies be limited by the
> opinions foreigners have about those policies.
Sure, but it's not about the opinions. It's about treating people with
respect. And BTW, it's not just foreigners who have these opinions about
the policies. I live in the US, and I think it's total bullshit.
Why? Because the terrorists know what our measures are. They know
they're going to need a better fake ID to get into the country. They
know that instead of recruiting middle-eastern looking people, they need
to recruit people who look like me (average middle aged white guy).
All measures like this do is keep the stupid terrorists out. But stupid
terrorists do things like set the time on their bomb vest wrong and blow
themselves up before they leave the workshop.
It does us absolutely no good to put measures in place that depend on the
people we're trying to prevent entering the country being total idiots.
> Let's be frank. Every nation on the planet that is run by anyone with
> any brains at all makes protection of its own interests the first
> priority of its foreign policy. The French government does what it
> thinks is best for France, and if the Americans don't like it, the
> French really don't care. Same goes for the Spaniards with regard to
> Spain, the British with regard to the UK, the Germans with regard to
> Germany, the Russians with regard to Russia, and so on.
Yes, but the thing that most governments miss is that protection of one's
own interests DOES include not pissing off other countries. "Why do they
hate us?" Because we're IN the middle east. So what's our solution?
SEND MORE TROOPS. Duh, what kind of stupid foreign policy decision is
that?
> The only real difference is that much of the world has this notion that
> the US, and another nation I will not name here, are somehow not
> entitled to place their own interests first, but must, for reasons that
> never bear close scrutiny, place other nations first.
As I said, there's a difference between placing your interests first
without regard to the effect it has on other parts of the world, putting
your interests first but protecting relations with your allies, and
putting measures in place that actually work and don't *depend* on "the
enemy" being as stupid as a potted plant.
"Oh, if I want to fly in from Europe without a visa, I need to register
on a website. I guess I'll get a visa from a non-European country, fly
in to Mexico or Canada, and find a place to cross the border. Or maybe
I'll go to Haiti and hop a boat there with a bunch of immigrants - I may
not make it, but there will be plenty after me and one boat is bound to
get through."
Jim
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
> "Why do they hate us?" Because we're IN the middle east.
As if it was that simple.
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:04:03 -0400, Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>> "Why do they hate us?" Because we're IN the middle east.
>
> As if it was that simple.
Sure there are other factors, but the major beef that Bin Laden and
others has is that unbelievers are in their holy land. Our solution to
that was to put MORE unbelievers in their land.
So, someone comes to your house uninvited, and you ask them to leave.
Instead, they invite 20 friends. Tell me you're not gonna get pissed off
about that.
Jim
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