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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: When are they going to realise..
Date: 4 Jun 2008 03:52:52
Message: <484649d4@news.povray.org>
>> You know your PC is too slow when...
>>
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/03/us_visa_scheme/comments/
>> ....clicking on a link causes Firefox to lock up. :-/
>>
> What're you running Firefox on? (Hardware info pls)

AMD Athlon XP 1700+, 256 MB RAM, Windoze XP SP2, Firefox 2.0.0.9.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: When are they going to realise..
Date: 4 Jun 2008 04:18:24
Message: <48464fd0@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
> However, the end of the article suggested that it was not to 
> offend other passengers (put in the same category as having a shirt with 
> expletives).

  In a country where something like 80% of the population has a protected
minority group status it's probably *impossible* to not to offend anyone,
no matter what you do. You would probably have to live excluded from
society if you want to avoid offending anyone (and even that probably
would offend someone if he finds out).

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: When are they going to realise..
Date: 4 Jun 2008 04:50:53
Message: <4846576d@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:484649d4@news.povray.org...

>  256 MB RAM

You're kidding, right?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: When are they going to realise..
Date: 4 Jun 2008 05:18:58
Message: <48465e02@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> AMD Athlon XP 1700+, 256 MB RAM, Windoze XP SP2, Firefox 2.0.0.9.

  Terrific state-of-art specs for a gamer and computer programmer?-)

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: When are they going to realise..
Date: 4 Jun 2008 07:08:34
Message: <484677b2@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw wrote:
> "Doctor John" <doc### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message
> news:48459a58$1@news.povray.org...
> 
>>Gail Shaw wrote:
>>
>>>Never? Have you ever had the pleasure of a chat with the Border
> 
> Protection
> 
>>>people at a US airport?
>>
>>Yup. Several times and don't ask ...
> 
> 
> Twice for me. I found the guys in Seattle OK, and even willing to joke a
> bit. The 'person' in Denver on the other hand...
> Let's just say I don't like interregations at (for me) 2am after I've been
> travelling for 28 hours
> 
> 
>>You'll have to offer me serious money to get me to visit again
> 
> 
> There's a conference I would like to attend in Seattle in November. At least
> it's before the registration becomes compulsary.
> 
> Hmmm. Anyone know what the Canadian border's like on that side of the
> continent?
> 
> 
Recently when RETURNING to Canada, (that would be the country of my 
citizenship,) from the US, I had to endure a close screening by a crew 
of smarmy homeland security agents.  My mistake was that I was riding on 
a bus rather than in a car.  Now, while I consider it invasive, I can 
understand that these freaks feel the need to monitor who is crossing 
the border in either direction.  But the complexion of the 'interview' 
was that I somehow had to meet the approval of these American agents, 
before I would be allowed to return to my own country.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: When are they going to realise..
Date: 4 Jun 2008 07:12:52
Message: <484678b4@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> Recently when RETURNING to Canada, (that would be the country of my 
> citizenship,) from the US, I had to endure a close screening by a crew 
> of smarmy homeland security agents.  My mistake was that I was riding on 
> a bus rather than in a car.  Now, while I consider it invasive, I can 
> understand that these freaks feel the need to monitor who is crossing 
> the border in either direction.  But the complexion of the 'interview' 
> was that I somehow had to meet the approval of these American agents, 
> before I would be allowed to return to my own country.

  Well, it makes sense. We can never know what those Canadians are up to.
Ever seen the South Park movie?

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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: When are they going to realise..
Date: 4 Jun 2008 07:22:52
Message: <48467b0c@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Doctor John <doc### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> ...That this is not a good way to win friends and influence people?
> 
>   Call me nationalistic or whatever you want, but IMO the main
> responsibility of a government is to protect its own people. The
> intricacies of foreign relationships is always second to that (at
> least when it doesn't directly affect the first responsibility).
> 
>   Europe has dug somewhat of a hole for itself with its generally
> lenient immigration policy, and some people, such as the US, are
> wary of that.
> 
>   I think it's rather telling that the people who performed the London
> bombings were not foreign terrorists who had entered the country
> illegally. They were British citizens. I believe that has had at least
> some effect on the foreign policies of the US with respect to Europe.
> (That is, it's no longer just "ah, an European citizen, thus not a
> terrorist, welcome" as it may have been in the past, because nowadays
> even European citizens can be muslim radical terrorists thanks to these
> immigration policies.)

It's not as if the recent spate of terrorism was the first time that a 
European citizen harbored wishes of blowing up Americans.  During the 
80's the Soviet Union sponsored quite a few terrorist groups in Europe, 
and it was European citizens who took the cash and blew up Americans 
where they could.

Regards,
John


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From: Vincent Le Chevalier
Subject: Re: When are they going to realise..
Date: 4 Jun 2008 07:23:21
Message: <48467b29$1@news.povray.org>
Warp a écrit :
> Vincent Le Chevalier <gal### [at] libertyallsurfspamfr> wrote:
>> You can take some comfort in the idea that within a few years kerosen 
>> will be so costly that all the problems of air travel will disappear :-p
> 
>   In a way it might be a blessing that the ending of fossil fuels and
> global warming problems are coincidentally happening at the same time,
> as the former will help alleviate the latter.
> 
Sadly even if fossil fuels were abruptly out of use, the effects on 
climate could last for some time. There will probably be a length of 
time where we'll have the inconvenience from climate change while not 
having the benefits of fossil fuels any longer...

-- 
Vincent


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: When are they going to realise..
Date: 4 Jun 2008 07:31:27
Message: <48467d0f$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:52:32 -0400, Warp wrote:
> 
>>   Call me nationalistic or whatever you want, but IMO the main
>> responsibility of a government is to protect its own people.
> 
> You don't protect the people of a nation by pissing off the rest of the 
> world, though.

And you don't protect them by letting your policies be limited by the 
opinions foreigners have about those policies.

Let's be frank.  Every nation on the planet that is run by anyone with 
any brains at all makes protection of its own interests the first 
priority of its foreign policy.  The French government does what it 
thinks is best for France, and if the Americans don't like it, the 
French really don't care.  Same goes for the Spaniards with regard to 
Spain, the British with regard to the UK, the Germans with regard to 
Germany, the Russians with regard to Russia, and so on.

The only real difference is that much of the world has this notion that 
the US, and another nation I will not name here, are somehow not 
entitled to place their own interests first, but must, for reasons that 
never bear close scrutiny, place other nations first.

Regards,
John


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: When are they going to realise..
Date: 4 Jun 2008 08:21:58
Message: <s62d4490hq1vfol3r5udutkelkt2sacpve@4ax.com>
On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:24:43 +0100, Doctor John <doc### [at] gmailcom>
wrote:

>
>You'll have to offer me serious money to get me to visit again

Me too.
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Regards
     Stephen


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