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From: Greg M Johnson
Subject: Is there such a thing as a famous Mandelbrot texture?
Date: 28 May 2008 22:56:46
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This may seem arrogant, but when I first saw this youtube mandelbrot fractal
zoom, the texture was so familiar to me that I assumed for a moment it must
have been something I'd released for povray.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gEw8xpb1aRA
Ever get that feeling? IS that a famous texture that someone released
somewhere?
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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a famous Mandelbrot texture?
Date: 28 May 2008 23:37:37
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Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> This may seem arrogant, but when I first saw this youtube mandelbrot fractal
> zoom, the texture was so familiar to me that I assumed for a moment it must
> have been something I'd released for povray.
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=gEw8xpb1aRA
>
> Ever get that feeling? IS that a famous texture that someone released
> somewhere?
Huh? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_fractal
Personally, I always thought the Mandelbrot set looked like a squashed
bug. There are prettier fractals out there. :P
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a famous Mandelbrot texture?
Date: 29 May 2008 05:45:57
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Greg M. Johnson <pte### [at] thecommononethatstartswithy com> wrote:
> This may seem arrogant, but when I first saw this youtube mandelbrot fractal
> zoom, the texture was so familiar to me that I assumed for a moment it must
> have been something I'd released for povray.
You'd have hard time creating that animation with POV-Ray (at least without
using external programs or external precalculated image maps). That's because
in that animation the color rings of the different iterations have been
interpolated, creating smooth color gradients. POV-Ray cannot do this.
Some fractal programs, such as xaos, support that, and that animation
may well have been done with it.
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a famous Mandelbrot texture?
Date: 29 May 2008 05:47:10
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Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> Personally, I always thought the Mandelbrot set looked like a squashed
> bug. There are prettier fractals out there. :P
The whole fractal may not be all that pretty, but when you start zooming
in, and especially when you use a proper color map, things get a lot
prettier. For example, see what I have found in the Mandelbrot set:
http://warp.povusers.org/snaps/fract/
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a famous Mandelbrot texture?
Date: 29 May 2008 06:11:37
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Warp wrote:
> You'd have hard time creating that animation with POV-Ray (at least without
> using external programs or external precalculated image maps). That's because
> in that animation the color rings of the different iterations have been
> interpolated, creating smooth color gradients. POV-Ray cannot do this.
>
> Some fractal programs, such as xaos, support that, and that animation
> may well have been done with it.
More exactly: The colouring algorithm makes use of additional data from
the orbit to produce a seamless colour gradient. (I.e., it doesn't just
blur the lines in the colour gradient, it actually adds additional new
detail - much like antialiasing isn't just blurring.)
At any rate, rerendering the entire frame a few thousand times is rather
inefficient. There are all kinds of tricks you can use where you reuse
pixels from the previous frame to vastly reduce the total time required
for simple zooms like this.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a famous Mandelbrot texture?
Date: 29 May 2008 06:14:44
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Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> This may seem arrogant, but when I first saw this youtube mandelbrot fractal
> zoom, the texture was so familiar to me that I assumed for a moment it must
> have been something I'd released for povray.
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=gEw8xpb1aRA
>
> Ever get that feeling? IS that a famous texture that someone released
> somewhere?
Not sure what you're asking here... The [quadratic] Mandelbrot set is an
extremely well-known object, and the Internet is replete with endless
animations and stills depicting it. Certainly there are general areas of
it which are extremely well visited. [The negative tail, the seahorse
valley, etc.]
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a famous Mandelbrot texture?
Date: 29 May 2008 06:17:37
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Warp wrote:
> The whole fractal may not be all that pretty, but when you start zooming
> in, and especially when you use a proper color map, things get a lot
> prettier.
Indeed. Some areas are prettier than others, and there's a bit of a
knack to finding them.
> For example, see what I have found in the Mandelbrot set:
>
> http://warp.povusers.org/snaps/fract/
...or [shameless plug]...
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
Arguably the Mandelbrot set falls into the category of things which have
"been done now", but I still enjoy exploring it.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a famous Mandelbrot texture?
Date: 29 May 2008 06:18:08
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Tim Cook wrote:
> Personally, I always thought the Mandelbrot set looked like a squashed
> bug.
Only at low res. ;-)
> There are prettier fractals out there. :P
For example...?
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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From: scott
Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a famous Mandelbrot texture?
Date: 29 May 2008 06:27:19
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> http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
"Have a mug…"
What does that mean? ;-)
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a famous Mandelbrot texture?
Date: 29 May 2008 07:16:00
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scott wrote:
> "Have a mug…"
>
> What does that mean? ;-)
...that Zazzle has changed their HTML rendering policy since I put the
page together? :-/
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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