"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47dd53e3@news.povray.org...
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>   Actually, that last level is the easiest of the lot when you know how,
but
> I won't spoil it for Andrew.  ;)

Run like hell?

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"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message 
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47dd53e3@news.povray.org...
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>>   Actually, that last level is the easiest of the lot when you know how,
> but
>> I won't spoil it for Andrew.  ;)
>
> Run like hell?

    Dum-de-dum-de-dum-de-dum...  ;)

    ~Steve~


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Andrew, if you get REALLY hacked off with FC, remember that you can download 
a whole stack of free custom maps. Some of them are *way* better than FC 
itself made with 'other' professional game producers. Try the 'Matto' 
series. Man, that's good with hard levels that you can finish (in a real way 
from what I remember) without hitting a chopper 14 times. Just tryin' to 
help because I know what you're going through - I must have tried to beat 
that level more than 50 times myself. It's a bu88er, but it isn't 
impossible - Gails' answer is the best to swim ashore and hide behind that 
palm tree, although you can still beat it from the ship itself if you're a 
good shot with the RL.   :)

    ~Steve~

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Gail Shaw wrote:

> What other weapons do you have? P90? AG36? OICW?

 From the last checkpoint, I have a pistol, a P90, a sniper rifle, and 
some kind of SMG with a zoom scope on it. (Seems to be more damaging 
than the other SMG I had...) I'm standing in front of a rocket launcher 
and several boxes of rockets though...

> " Since Crow's on a helicopter, you're going to be at a marked disadvantage
> if you actually stay on the ship; his minigun will cut you to pieces as soon
> as the water rises enough to force you to swim, and even before that occurs,
> you'll have a tough time dodging his fire without getting hit. The thing is,
> although Jack seems to think the front of the ship is the safest spot to
> survive the explosion, you're actually better off jumping overboard as soon
> as you plant your explosives, and swimming towards shore. You may take a bit
> of damage from the explosion, since you won't be able to move as quickly,
> but you should survive, at any rate.
> When you're ashore, pick a sizable palm tree and stand next to it as Crow
> flies in. Crow's attack heli moves in the same fashion as the previous
> choppers you've seen; it'll swoop around until it's close, and then it'll
> start strafing around your position, so that Crow can fire on you from the
> minigunner's position. If you picked a big enough palm tree, though, you
> should be able to simply hide behind the trunk whenever Crow fires, thus
> rendering you able to survive the fight without taking any damage at all, in
> most cases. All you need to do is sit behind the tree, moving so that Crow
> is on the opposite side, and occasionally pop out and fire a rocket at the
> helicopter. You'll obviously want to do this when the chopper is moving
> slowly; you only have a maximum of 14 rocket rounds, and the helicopter can
> take nine or so hits before it flies off and explodes. If you run out of
> rockets, switch over to your OICW and use its HE rounds to finish the
> helicopter off. "

What's an OICW? And... it has HE rounds?

>>> Or just use cheats.
>> Now what would be the point of that? ;-)
> 
> 
> If you're stuck and want to get past that point so you can get on with the
> rest of the game, why not?

Yeah, well, it's getting that way. Always seems a pitty to do it though.

[For example, this is the only way I could complete Disposable Hero. 
Damn that game is hard!]

>> Seriously. Load up Quake II. Open the console. Type "map boss2". Kill
>> the Makron. Congratulations, you just completed Q2 in, what, 120
>> seconds? Woo.
> 
> Yay. What's the point? I don't know about you, but I play games because I
> enjoy them, not because I want to boast I beat the game in some record time.

Indeed.

> I'm suggesting cheating through one (difficult) section, so you can get on
> with the rest of the game (which I assume you're enjoying).

Well, I'd prefer not to, but we'll see...

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"Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> What's an OICW? And... it has HE rounds?

    You haven't picked up an OICW yet? I might be wrong, (it's some time 
since I've played FC, I'm in Crysis mode atm - wait till you play this 
game!), but look for a guard tower on top of a 'high' hill. If you have to 
go back, then do that for the OICW. It's worth it. It's a powerful rifle 
with a good hit score. Two or three rounds instead of ten bullets+ to kill 
with the AK47. Of course, the Sniper rulez if you're clever enough, and I'm 
sure you are.  :)


>
>>>> Or just use cheats.
>>> Now what would be the point of that? ;-)
>>
>>
>> If you're stuck and want to get past that point so you can get on with 
>> the
>> rest of the game, why not?
>
> Yeah, well, it's getting that way. Always seems a pitty to do it though.

    Of course! Because it's a GOOD game! You have to do the distance to 
realise this.


> Well, I'd prefer not to, but we'll see...

      Go hide behind that tree if you haven't done it already.  :)


  ~Steve~


>
> -- 
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
> http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*

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> Can *anybody* tell me how to get rid of the damn chopper?! >_<

Ah-hah... palm tree FTW!

OK, I *finally* got off that part where I've been stuck for the past 3 
days. Yay.

Oh, neat. That's not the end. There's even more. And now I have *four* 
choppers and several patrol boats chasing me down the river. Superb! o_O

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> Oh, neat. That's not the end. There's even more. And now I have *four* 
> choppers and several patrol boats chasing me down the river. Superb! o_O

And I'm just fine playing Bejeweled... lol

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"Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Oh, neat. That's not the end. There's even more.

The part with Crow and the helecopter was chapter 14. There are 20.

> And now I have *four*
> choppers and several patrol boats chasing me down the river. Superb! o_O

Get off the river. It's safer to walk than use a boat.

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"Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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>> Can *anybody* tell me how to get rid of the damn chopper?! >_<
>
> Ah-hah... palm tree FTW!
>
> OK, I *finally* got off that part where I've been stuck for the past 3 
> days. Yay.

     Heh... :)


>
> Oh, neat. That's not the end. There's even more. And now I have *four* 
> choppers and several patrol boats chasing me down the river. Superb! o_O

      Oh, that's a good level, yes, definately walk/stealth it.

     ~Steve~


>
> -- 
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
> http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*

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>> Can *anybody* tell me how to get rid of the damn chopper?! >_<
>
> Ah-hah... palm tree FTW!
>
> OK, I *finally* got off that part where I've been stuck for the past 3 
> days. Yay.

I got stuck on that bit for ages too, I hid inside the boat at the top, then 
took shots out the side doors with the rocket launcher.  If you hit the 
helicopter enough times before the boat sinks then it will fly away.

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