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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Old photographs
Date: 9 Mar 2008 15:53:07
Message: <47d44e33$1@news.povray.org>
Chris Cason wrote:
> this site struck a chord with me some time back:
> 
>   http://www.shorpy.com/
> 
> see http://www.shorpy.com/shorpy: 'shorpy at work in 1910'
> 
>   http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/01094u.jpg
> 
> maybe 12 years old at the time? he later died in a mine accident at the age
> of 31, crushed by a rock. for most of his life, clearly, he knew nothing
> other than that mine.
> 
> I expect the mine owner lived in a nice mansion somewhere.
> 
> -- Chris

Very hard times, no doubt.  There was nothing to laugh about, thus, no 
smiles in old photos.

Today we have the luxury of information at the fingerprints through 
amazingly fast internet connections, amazing mass-production and 
reproduction technologies, laugh, fun and entertainment a click away on 
TV.  And yet, art of our time is so comparatively poor to that of those 
brutal and convulsive ages...


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Old photographs
Date: 9 Mar 2008 19:53:53
Message: <47d486a1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Very hard times, no doubt.  There was nothing to laugh about, thus, no 
> smiles in old photos.

It's probably the vagaries of the written word, but I can't tell if 
you're serious or sarcastic here :/

-- 
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Old photographs
Date: 9 Mar 2008 20:40:00
Message: <web.47d49133ce8a3d4a3dfd766b0@news.povray.org>
Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > Very hard times, no doubt.  There was nothing to laugh about, thus, no
> > smiles in old photos.
>
> It's probably the vagaries of the written word, but I can't tell if
> you're serious or sarcastic here :/

Serious tone.  No emoticon for serious tone exists AFAIK.  I've commented on the
lack of smiles in old photos before.  Sure people laughed and smiled.  But I
guess far too less than in the 20th century if the photos are any indication.


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Old photographs
Date: 9 Mar 2008 23:43:23
Message: <47d4bc6b@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
>> nemesis wrote:
>>> Very hard times, no doubt.  There was nothing to laugh about, thus, no
>>> smiles in old photos.
>> It's probably the vagaries of the written word, but I can't tell if
>> you're serious or sarcastic here :/
> 
> Serious tone.  No emoticon for serious tone exists AFAIK.  I've commented on the
> lack of smiles in old photos before.  Sure people laughed and smiled.  But I
> guess far too less than in the 20th century if the photos are any indication.

Given the literature I've read (remember Mark Twain, for exampl - and 
let's not forget, Shakespeare was a brilliant comedian), and the 
accounts of people who actually lived at the time, I don't think they 
smiled any less than we do.

Besides which, I can't imagine that mirth and frivolity are modern 
inventions.  People have been laughing for as long as there have been 
people :)

-- 
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Old photographs
Date: 10 Mar 2008 02:31:05
Message: <cto9t3tlplseu3m13kqohv3j34pt9lf0is@4ax.com>
On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:53:32 -0300, nemesis <nam### [at] nospamgmailcom>
wrote:

>
>Very hard times, no doubt.  There was nothing to laugh about, thus, no 
>smiles in old photos.
>
Is it not because, getting your photograph taken was a *serious* thing that
happened only occasionally. Unlike today when you can take a photo of what ever
you want because almost everyone carries a camera in their phone. I remember the
first photograph that was taken of me, aged about three. It was in a studio
(because no one in the family had a camera) and it was so formal that it but me
off being in photographs for life. I am really camera shy.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Old photographs
Date: 10 Mar 2008 04:41:50
Message: <47d5025e@news.povray.org>
St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> Damn, those guys sure would use those guns if you messed them about.

  You bet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfield-McCoy_feud

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Joel Yliluoma
Subject: Re: Old photographs
Date: 10 Mar 2008 06:17:36
Message: <slrnfta66g.3ne.bisqwit@bisqwit.iki.fi>
On 8 Mar 2008 12:09:30 -0500, Warp wrote:
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/HatfieldClan.jpg
>
>   Even though this is just a posed photo (and they have clearly suited up
> for the photo instead of being their casual clothes) you can still read a
> lot from the photo when you really start to examine it. It can excite your
> imagination a lot if you study it long enough.

"We and our guns!"
Even the brat on the right edge is carrying a gun.
And he's pointing it at the private parts of the mustache man
on the right edge...

-- 
Joel Yliluoma - http://iki.fi/bisqwit/


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Old photographs
Date: 10 Mar 2008 07:50:41
Message: <47d52ea1$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   I apologize for the more blog-style posting, but...
> 
>   Somehow I find some old photographs to be really fascinating. The older
> the photograph, the more fascinating. For example, consider this photograph
> taken in 1897:
> 

I ran across this someplace - I believe someone posted a link here 
several years ago.


http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/


Tom


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Old photographs
Date: 10 Mar 2008 11:35:17
Message: <47d56345@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:
> Besides which, I can't imagine that mirth and frivolity are modern 
> inventions.  People have been laughing for as long as there have been 
> people :)

Except for a camera, it seems.  OTOH, it was a novelty and somewhat 
rare, so they probably thought it'd be good for posterity to come out 
seriously in a photo than laughing like a mad dog.  Perhaps people began 
to take photos less seriously at around the time Einstein showed the 
tongue. :)


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Old photographs
Date: 10 Mar 2008 11:36:16
Message: <47d56380@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> Is it not because, getting your photograph taken was a *serious* thing that
> happened only occasionally.

yes, I just came to that conclusion in the post above... :P


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