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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Adventures with digital painting
Date: 13 Mar 2008 16:54:38
Message: <47d9a29e@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 escribió:
> But anyway, why worry? Just stop using Tcl. ;-)

For some reason that reminded me of...

<FarSide> i had a guide that told u to put the 1.1.3 firmware file on 
the touch
<Brethil> It will be way faster even if you decrypt it on your computer 
and put the decrypted.dmg file on your iPod (should work, but I'm not 
100% sure
<FarSide> then run the upgrade
<PovAddict> FarSide: I did that to save myself from a hour-long download
<PovAddict> but the iPod still did decryption, extraction, patching, etc
<FarSide> i chose the ron popeal method...set it and forget it
<FarSide> i just went to bed
<FarSide> lol
<PovAddict> okay, time to try this again
<PovAddict> ah wait... to copy the firmware I need ssh
<PovAddict> to install ssh I need BSD subsystem
<PovAddict> BSD subsystem messes with Cydia (which I haven't installed yet)
<FarSide> yup
<PovAddict> or, I could install Cydia and get saurik's ssh
<Brethil> you can also use iPHUC
<Brethil> to copy over usb
<FarSide> i just suggest suicide
<FarSide> a lot easier
<FarSide> lol


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Adventures with digital painting
Date: 13 Mar 2008 17:45:16
Message: <47d9ae7c@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> With dd you could copy any section of the file into a new one.

But again, it would take a long time to copy that.  The point is to not 
slog a half a terabyte of data from one disk to another in order to do 
the processing.

It works out OK. It just takes surprisingly long. :-)  It's automated at 
this point, unless I specifically take it off automation, so it's not 
like I'm waiting for it. It just kind of surprised me that deleting a 
big file could take over a minute. Must be the ext3 journaling or 
something going on. Ext was never really optimized for big files.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Adventures with digital painting
Date: 13 Mar 2008 18:05:28
Message: <47d9b338$1@news.povray.org>

> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> With dd you could copy any section of the file into a new one.
> 
> But again, it would take a long time to copy that.  The point is to not 
> slog a half a terabyte of data from one disk to another in order to do 
> the processing.
> 
> It works out OK. It just takes surprisingly long. :-)  It's automated at 
> this point, unless I specifically take it off automation, so it's not 
> like I'm waiting for it. It just kind of surprised me that deleting a 
> big file could take over a minute. Must be the ext3 journaling or 
> something going on. Ext was never really optimized for big files.

What do you do with the small section once you cut it? Can't you use 
pipes to avoid so many temporary files?


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Adventures with digital painting
Date: 14 Mar 2008 02:13:05
Message: <47da2581$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Autoconf doesn't make C portable
> 
>   It only makes the C program to compile and work in a multitude of
> different architectures. Yeah, it doesn't make it portable, only portable.
> 

That's the idea behind metaprogramming, after all.  You write something 
that gets turned into code for whatever your actual situation is :)

-- 
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Adventures with digital painting
Date: 14 Mar 2008 10:31:12
Message: <47da9a40@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> What do you do with the small section once you cut it? Can't you use 
> pipes to avoid so many temporary files?

We don't know which ones we're keeping until some time later. Normally 
about 10 hours later, if it's automated, or as much as a week if I let 
it pile up while I'm doing something else.

As for what we're doing with it, I'll have to defer answering that until 
our company goes "live" in a couple weeks.

http://www.skyclix.com/

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Adventures with digital painting
Date: 14 Mar 2008 10:34:55
Message: <47da9b1f$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:
> That's the idea behind metaprogramming, after all.  You write something 
> that gets turned into code for whatever your actual situation is :)

And if the metaprogramming was built into the compiler, I'd agree that C 
is nicely portable.  :-)

C isn't portable. C + autoconf + the dozen tools that autoconf depends 
on + knowing all the arcane invocations you need to include to use 
autoconf is what's portable.

I mean, heck, 6502 assembler is portable, if you write a program to 
interpret it on a bunch of other machines, yes?

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Adventures with digital painting
Date: 14 Mar 2008 10:58:27
Message: <47daa0a3$1@news.povray.org>

47da9a40@news.povray.org...
> As for what we're doing with it, I'll have to defer answering that until 
> our company goes "live" in a couple weeks.
>
> http://www.skyclix.com/

According to Google it's about delivering targeted ads based on 
automagically recognised audio (rather than text) samples.

G.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Adventures with digital painting
Date: 14 Mar 2008 11:28:53
Message: <47daa7c5$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:28:04 +0000, Invisible wrote:

>>> Tcl encodes all data types as strings. I've been bitten by this
>>> before... You write a Tcl script, it works fine, and then it
>>> encounters some input that happens to contain a curly-bracket or a
>>> dollar sign and Weird Crap happens...
>> 
>> That's one of the potential pitfalls with most scripting languages.
> 
> Now you know why I dislike scripting languages in general. ;-)

They work for what they're designed for - I use awk quite a bit, perl 
occasionally, and shell scripts on rare occasions.

But if I wanted to write something that was usuable by a general computer 
user, I'd look to develop in a compiled language, as a general rule.

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Adventures with digital painting
Date: 14 Mar 2008 13:38:40
Message: <47dac630$1@news.povray.org>
>> Now you know why I dislike scripting languages in general. ;-)
> 
> They work for what they're designed for - I use awk quite a bit, perl 
> occasionally, and shell scripts on rare occasions.
> 
> But if I wanted to write something that was usuable by a general computer 
> user, I'd look to develop in a compiled language, as a general rule.

The kind of tasks I typically want to do involve heavy number crunching. 
Scripting languages aren't terribly suitable to this...

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Adventures with digital painting
Date: 14 Mar 2008 15:26:30
Message: <47dadf76$1@news.povray.org>
Gilles Tran wrote:
> According to Google it's about delivering targeted ads based on 
> automagically recognised audio (rather than text) samples.

Damn. So much for "stealth mode."  Even our partners are ratting us out. :-)

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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