And lo on Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:29:16 -0000, Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull>  
did spake, saying:

> Mike Raiford wrote:
>> Invisible wrote:
>>
>>> Nope, it's no good. I ph413. I simply can't get that mouth shape  
>>> correct. It's too crazy... Attempt #2 looks *vaguely* reminiscent of  
>>> him, but the others are just nowhere near.
>>  I WANNA SEE!!! :D
>>
>>>
>>> *throws paper away*
>>>
>>  No, don't throw away. I posted my lame attempt at drawing.
>
> Look, it sucked, OK? (And I'm not supposed to my using the PostIt(tm)  
> notes on my desk for drawing cartoon characters during work hours.) Just  
> assume you already saw it and start with the pointing and the laughing...

Ah well if you won't I'll snaffle a PostIt instead so here's the before.

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And lo on Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:14:47 -0000, Phil Cook  
<phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> did spake, saying:

> Ah well if you won't I'll snaffle a PostIt instead so here's the before.

and here's the vectored after

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>> Look, it sucked, OK? (And I'm not supposed to my using the PostIt(tm) 
>> notes on my desk for drawing cartoon characters during work hours.) 
>> Just assume you already saw it and start with the pointing and the 
>> laughing...
> 
> Ah well if you won't I'll snaffle a PostIt instead so here's the before.

Hint: Yours looks vastly better than any of mine.

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And lo on Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:48:54 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

>>> Look, it sucked, OK? (And I'm not supposed to my using the PostIt(tm)  
>>> notes on my desk for drawing cartoon characters during work hours.)  
>>> Just assume you already saw it and start with the pointing and the  
>>> laughing...
>>  Ah well if you won't I'll snaffle a PostIt instead so here's the  
>> before.
>
> Hint: Yours looks vastly better than any of mine.

But we'll never really know that unless you show us :-)

Anyway tech-wise the original drawing was drawn on a 3" square yellow  
Z-note with an HB pencil then scanned in at 150dpi. I did the vectoring in  
PSP7 and not counting the original background I've 2 raster layers and 7  
vector layers with 11 objects; and I really couldn't be arsed to do the  
hat. It still needs some tweaking and smoothing, but as I'd already wasted  
just under ½hr on it meh!

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Dan Byers wrote:
> compare it to drawing on glass, so they slip a piece of paper on top of the
> tablet so they can get the same "feel". 

The tablet PC I use has a very nice screen for that. Feels like a high 
quality pen on paper. Not slick at all.

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"Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> OK, so I realise nobody here actually gives a ****, but I just drew
> these three pictures:

   Well, you did good there, they look good to me. Long time since I did any 
freestyle pencil stuff!

      ~Steve~

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>    Well, you did good there, they look good to me. Long time since I did any 
> freestyle pencil stuff!

Why thank you Mr St.

I've discovered that for some reason, all of the CAD characters seem 
particularly easy to draw. (Though by no means trivial. Every time I try 
to draw more of Lilah than her face, it comes out looking like... a 
train wreck. Really. I also have a big problem with hands...)

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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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>>    Well, you did good there, they look good to me. Long time since I did 
>> any freestyle pencil stuff!
>
> Why thank you Mr St.
>
> I've discovered that for some reason, all of the CAD characters seem 
> particularly easy to draw. (Though by no means trivial. Every time I try 
> to draw more of Lilah than her face, it comes out looking like... a train 
> wreck. Really. I also have a big problem with hands...)
>
Hands and realistic smiles are probably the most difficult to draw.


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Nekar Xenos <nek### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Hands and realistic smiles are probably the most difficult to draw.

  Yeah, unlike in cartoons, the corners of the mouth do not go up when
you smile. If you draw an otherwise realistic face like that, it will
look horrible.

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Nekar Xenos wrote:

> Hands and realistic smiles are probably the most difficult to draw.

Yeah, I've got to the point where I can *usually* draw CAD characters 
such that you can recognise who it's supposed to be. What expression 
they end up having still seems to be rather random - I haven't worked 
out how to really control this part yet.

Arms and legs are also deceptively hard. They're not just cylinders; 
their circumferance changes along their length in a really quite subtle 
way. (If you ignore it, it looks wrong. If you try to draw it, it looks 
vastly exaggerated. And wrong.)

I think it would be extremely interesting to find out how Tim draws 
these guys. I mean, sure, partly it's practice. But by now he must 
surely have a carefully honed technique for drawing each guy and gal...?

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