A long time since I posted here so "Hi, there everyone. Good to see
you're still posting, Invisible (and listening to Enigma, Enya et al).
Ditto John Van Sickle, Warp, Jim H and others too numerous to mention."

I'm considering another move of abode and have thus been sorting through
the accumulated rubbish of a lifetime to decide what gets thrown out and
what gets kept.
In amongst the detritus I found a Toshiba T-1850 laptop. It powers up
but seems to suffering from bit rot so not a great deal happens from
power up onwards :-(
In the light of DKB's posts over on p.b.i it seems a good idea to
attempt to reinstall the OS (iirc win3) and then install DKBTrace -
always assuming that I can find the original sources.
Anyone want a trip down memory lane?

John
-- 
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.

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Here's the original sales flyer
http://resource.toshiba-europe.com/europe/bv/computers/flyers/classics/t1800_1850_c_e.pdf

John

-- 
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.

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Doctor John <doc### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> In amongst the detritus I found a Toshiba T-1850 laptop.

  It seems to be a 386, so linux should install just fine. Even X might
work with some light window manager (avoid KDE and Gnome). Likewise
POV-Ray should compile and might even run without running out of memory.
It will be slow like h***, but I don't think DKB-trace would be any faster
either. :P

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                                                          - Warp

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Hey, John - good to hear from you again!

Jim

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Warp wrote:
> Doctor John <doc### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> In amongst the detritus I found a Toshiba T-1850 laptop.
> 
>   It seems to be a 386, so linux should install just fine. Even X might
> work with some light window manager (avoid KDE and Gnome). Likewise
> POV-Ray should compile and might even run without running out of memory.
> It will be slow like h***, but I don't think DKB-trace would be any faster
> either. :P
> 
25 MHz 386SX, 4MB RAM, 60 MB Disk, 9.5" Mono screen :-)

You're probably right about going the linux route but which kernel? I
know for certain that it won't run 2.6.22 :-))

John

-- 
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:28:03 +0000, Doctor John wrote:

> Warp wrote:
>> Doctor John <doc### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>> In amongst the detritus I found a Toshiba T-1850 laptop.
>> 
>>   It seems to be a 386, so linux should install just fine. Even X might
>> work with some light window manager (avoid KDE and Gnome). Likewise
>> POV-Ray should compile and might even run without running out of
>> memory. It will be slow like h***, but I don't think DKB-trace would be
>> any faster either. :P
>> 
> 25 MHz 386SX, 4MB RAM, 60 MB Disk, 9.5" Mono screen :-)
> 
> You're probably right about going the linux route but which kernel? I
> know for certain that it won't run 2.6.22 :-))

I'd probably go with a 2.0 or a 2.2 kernel - something like DSL or one of 
the other minimalist Linux distros should come with one of those older 
kernels.

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Hey, John - good to hear from you again!
> 
> Jim
Thanks for the welcome :-))

-- 
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.

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Doctor John <doc### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> You're probably right about going the linux route but which kernel? I
> know for certain that it won't run 2.6.22 :-))

  How do you know that?

  The linux kernel developers have somewhat of a friendly competition with
the NetBSD developers about who supports the most platforms. (NetBSD
supports over 54 hardware platforms, comprising around 17 different
processor architectures. The Linux 2.6 kernel supports even more than
this, although any single Linux distro supports less.)

  I would be surprised if the Linux 2.6 kernel wouldn't support old 386's.
(Just because the kernel can use features of newer processors doesn't
necessarily mean it cannot be compiled for older ones.)

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                                                          - Warp

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> > You're probably right about going the linux route but which kernel? I
> > know for certain that it won't run 2.6.22 :-))

> I'd probably go with a 2.0 or a 2.2 kernel - something like DSL or one of 
> the other minimalist Linux distros should come with one of those older 
> kernels.

  Does anyone actually have a reference to 2.6 not supporting 386?

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                                                          - Warp

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:06:39 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> > You're probably right about going the linux route but which kernel? I
>> > know for certain that it won't run 2.6.22 :-))
> 
>> I'd probably go with a 2.0 or a 2.2 kernel - something like DSL or one
>> of the other minimalist Linux distros should come with one of those
>> older kernels.
> 
>   Does anyone actually have a reference to 2.6 not supporting 386?

I don't, and I'm sure it does work, but the memory requirements are 
typically higher for the newer kernels, so an older kernel is often 
preferred.

Jim

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