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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: New chart -21KB
Date: 28 Feb 2008 06:57:15
Message: <47c6a19b$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> OTOH, if you're the sort of person who knows when he wants a 20 ohm 
>> resistor you probably won't need any help locating it in Maplin.
> 
> Yeh, I used to love Maplins.  I could just show up and buy an IC, a few 
> resistors and capacitors and go home and make something.  Or get that 
> right combination of plugs and sockets to make a custom cable for 
> whatever I might have been up to at the time.

I have a bucket of 7400s and some breadboard somewhere... ooo, and lots 
of LEDs and a batery pack. Damn, where did I put them?

Of course, if KLogic would ****ing work properly, I wouldn't need that 
lot. :-P

>> It's nice being able to buy that sort of stuff in a high street shop 
>> though. Sometimes you don't want a brand new 20 quid scart lead, just 
>> the connector at one end because you bent the pin or whatever.
> 
> OTOH, I remember trying to solder on to a 15-pin VGA plug, and I kept 
> melting the plastic housing that held the pins in place, in the end I 
> Just went and bought a 20 quid cable and chopped it in half to get a 
> "ready soldered" plug ;-)

It's surprising how much you can be charged for cables. Like, when I was 





Oh, sure, the PC World one says "Belkin" on it. But come on, is it made 
of *Gold* or something?! It's a *wire* with a plug at each end FFS!

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: New chart -21KB
Date: 28 Feb 2008 06:59:05
Message: <47c6a209$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> OTOH, I remember trying to solder on to a 15-pin VGA plug, and I kept 
> melting the plastic housing that held the pins in place, in the end I 
> Just went and bought a 20 quid cable and chopped it in half to get a 
> "ready soldered" plug ;-)

Haha, what were you soldering with, a steam iron? :-D It's true though, 
so many components that used to be serviceable are now machine-built and 
  sealed in plastic.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: New chart -21KB
Date: 28 Feb 2008 07:30:51
Message: <ebads3l5ot3odh8qmkr9lrqr0tg74ecshu@4ax.com>
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:57:14 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>



If you are making something with components bought from Maplin's or RS you need
to be aware that the tolerances might be very low. Many years ago when I worked
for Motorola we had three levels of specifications. The highest one was Military
spec which had the tightest tolerances then there was within spec, sold to the
industry followed by functionally working which was sold to hobby shops like
Maplin and RS. The latter could not be relied on in any critical circuits.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: scott
Subject: Re: New chart -21KB
Date: 28 Feb 2008 07:33:14
Message: <47c6aa0a@news.povray.org>
>> OTOH, I remember trying to solder on to a 15-pin VGA plug, and I kept 
>> melting the plastic housing that held the pins in place, in the end I 
>> Just went and bought a 20 quid cable and chopped it in half to get a 
>> "ready soldered" plug ;-)
>
> Haha, what were you soldering with, a steam iron? :-D

Hehe no, it was just after soldering a row or two the next pin I touched 
with the iron caused it to bend round to the side because the plastic it was 
touching had partially melted.  Probably just a cheap plug.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: New chart -21KB
Date: 28 Feb 2008 07:43:32
Message: <47c6ac74$1@news.povray.org>


> 
> If you are making something with components bought from Maplin's or RS you need
> to be aware that the tolerances might be very low.


the one from PC World. (But without the "Belkin" sticker.)

I haven't seen *any* shop that will sell you USB plugs on their own - I 
suspect it would be hell to attempt to solder them...

> Many years ago when I worked
> for Motorola we had three levels of specifications. The highest one was Military
> spec which had the tightest tolerances then there was within spec, sold to the
> industry followed by functionally working which was sold to hobby shops like
> Maplin and RS. The latter could not be relied on in any critical circuits.

Yeah, probably...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: New chart -21KB
Date: 28 Feb 2008 08:10:45
Message: <47c6b2d5$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>>> OTOH, I remember trying to solder on to a 15-pin VGA plug, and I kept 
>>> melting the plastic housing that held the pins in place, in the end I 
>>> Just went and bought a 20 quid cable and chopped it in half to get a 
>>> "ready soldered" plug ;-)
>>
>> Haha, what were you soldering with, a steam iron? :-D
> 
> Hehe no, it was just after soldering a row or two the next pin I touched 
> with the iron caused it to bend round to the side because the plastic it 
> was touching had partially melted.  Probably just a cheap plug.

I find you often have to let the whole thing cool between pins, because 
they conduct a surprising quantity of heat to the surrounding mount. 
Especially if, like me, you spend 15 minutes and 15 inches of solder on 
each pin :D


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: New chart -21KB
Date: 28 Feb 2008 08:12:30
Message: <47c6b33e$1@news.povray.org>

> I find you often have to let the whole thing cool between pins, because 
> they conduct a surprising quantity of heat to the surrounding mount. 

Yeah, solder one, plug it on a chunk of ice, solder another.
Should work :)


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: New chart -21KB
Date: 2 Mar 2008 17:32:21
Message: <47cb2af5@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Oh, sure, the PC World one says "Belkin" on it. But come on, is it made 
> of *Gold* or something?! It's a *wire* with a plug at each end FFS!

Gold is a very desirable material for cables :)

-- 
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: New chart -21KB
Date: 2 Mar 2008 21:22:58
Message: <47cb6102$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:32:17 -0800, Chambers wrote:

> Invisible wrote:
>> Oh, sure, the PC World one says "Belkin" on it. But come on, is it made
>> of *Gold* or something?! It's a *wire* with a plug at each end FFS!
> 
> Gold is a very desirable material for cables :)

Well, at least for the connectors.  I don't think even my Monster brand 
audio/video cables have gold conductors.

But I could be wrong - I'm not really willing to cut them open to have a 
look, given how much they cost. ;-)

Jim


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From: scott
Subject: Re: The chart
Date: 20 Mar 2008 05:42:24
Message: <47e23f90$1@news.povray.org>
> Now these points of data make a beautiful... uh... wait a sec...

BTW, do you know if the Intel Core2Duo E8500 on your chart?


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