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>>> I can't see him
>> That's because I'm... ;-)
>
> An Orchid?
Invisible. :-P
>> (I wasn't actually aware we had anybody near there. Indeed, I didn't
>> think we had many people here in the UK at all...?)
>
> Well there is a few of us Brits that post here and I think I've been snubbed so
> I'm sulking :(
o_O
> Seriously if you're up in town again we could go for a drink, that goes for
> anyone I'm not fussy as long as you're paying :). St plans to be here in the
> spring so if I'm not working away I know some cheep (and good) restaurants.
Damn - now that's friendly... LOL!
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And lo on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:49:43 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> did
spake, saying:
> Phil Cook wrote:
>
>> AKA "Satan's layby" (Bill Bailey)
>> Things people never say "I was driving down to London and thought
>> 'I'll take this opportunity to stop off at Milton Keynes on the way'"
>
> Question: Why does everybody dislike MK so much? I think it's a really
> great place to live...
Because it's new and because it's been designed, which makes it totally
non-English :-P
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>> Question: Why does everybody dislike MK so much? I think it's a really
>> great place to live...
>
> Because it's new and because it's been designed, which makes it totally
> non-English :-P
Riiiight... Well, I'd rather live in a place that had some *thought* put
into it than some random thing that just *happened* by accident. :-P
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> Riiiight... Well, I'd rather live in a place that had some *thought* put
> into it than some random thing that just *happened* by accident. :-P
So would I, but a lot of people find those places boring*. Personally I
would much prefer a system of roads named H1,H2,... and V1,V2,... plus the
ability to drive through the town without getting stuck in a huge traffic
jam. Have you ever tried to drive from one side of Reading to the other?
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:51:52 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>>> I can't see him
>>> That's because I'm... ;-)
>>
>> An Orchid?
>
>Invisible. :-P
>
I am a silly Billy :)
>>> (I wasn't actually aware we had anybody near there. Indeed, I didn't
>>> think we had many people here in the UK at all...?)
>>
>> Well there is a few of us Brits that post here and I think I've been snubbed so
>> I'm sulking :(
>
>o_O
>
>> Seriously if you're up in town again we could go for a drink, that goes for
>> anyone I'm not fussy as long as you're paying :). St plans to be here in the
>> spring so if I'm not working away I know some cheep (and good) restaurants.
>
>Damn - now that's friendly... LOL!
Well it is hard to find people with similar interests in RL. I've only ever met
one Pover and spoken to one other who had heard of it. I also like showing off
my adopted hometown. So next time you come up to London drop me a mail. Again
that is an open invitation to all.
Regards
Stephen
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scott wrote:
>> Riiiight... Well, I'd rather live in a place that had some *thought*
>> put into it than some random thing that just *happened* by accident. :-P
>
> So would I, but a lot of people find those places boring*. Personally I
> would much prefer a system of roads named H1,H2,... and V1,V2,... plus
> the ability to drive through the town without getting stuck in a huge
> traffic jam. Have you ever tried to drive from one side of Reading to
> the other?
I tried to drive *into* Reading twice. And succeeded - eventually. But
it wasn't fun. (I especially love the one-way system, and being told to
"perform a U-turn" at a set of traffic lights on a 4-lane road in a
residential area. That was great...)
Every year, Milton Keynes holds a demonstration of how efficient the
road system is. We call it "The Milton Keynes Fireworks Display".
Basically they detonate several hundred thousand pounds' worth of high
explosives, and anybody who wants to can watch FOR FREE. They also have
a very large funfair right next to it.
Probably something like 80% of MK turns up in their cars for this event.
I wouldn't be surprised if a few peeps from Northampton or somewhere
like that too. Slowly they all congregate in the central shopping center
car park. But when the show finishes, THEY ALL TRY TO LEAVE AT ONCE!
So, 80% of the entire city's traffic, all concentrated at a single point
in space, trying to leave. Simultaneously.
One could scarely imagine a worse scenario. The roads are (presumably)
designed to handle the "typical" traffic volume plus a few percent of
headroom. They're surely not designed at all to handle THE ENTIRE
POPULUS trying to move through one grid at once.
Obviously, the actual car parks are stationary. But as soon as the
traffic manages to get *out* of there, every 800 yards or so there are
more and more turnings, the traffic volume drops off exponentially.
Within about 20 minutes there is barely any evidence that anything
unusual has happened. (!!)
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> I tried to drive *into* Reading twice. And succeeded - eventually. But it
> wasn't fun. (I especially love the one-way system, and being told to
> "perform a U-turn" at a set of traffic lights on a 4-lane road in a
> residential area. That was great...)
Hehe yes, I used to live on one side of Reading and worked on the other ...
not fun. BTW I think Heathrow airport must receive the prize for worst
traffic congestion, but then I suppose that's only because it's been allowed
to grow to take 3x as many people as it was designed for without any changes
to the road system.
> Probably something like 80% of MK turns up in their cars for this event. I
> wouldn't be surprised if a few peeps from Northampton or somewhere like
> that too. Slowly they all congregate in the central shopping center car
> park. But when the show finishes, THEY ALL TRY TO LEAVE AT ONCE!
We have that situation here too, every week when one of our two football
teams play at home.
> Obviously, the actual car parks are stationary. But as soon as the traffic
> manages to get *out* of there, every 800 yards or so there are more and
> more turnings, the traffic volume drops off exponentially. Within about 20
> minutes there is barely any evidence that anything unusual has happened.
> (!!)
Yeh ditto here, the football stadium is cleverly placed right next to where
two autobahns cross, so immediately you have the choice of going 4 different
directions each with 3 or 4 lanes, it helps a lot. I still have memories of
going to the British Formula 1 GP and it taking 3 or 4 hours just to get 10
miles down the road...
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scott wrote:
> Yeh ditto here, the football stadium is cleverly placed right next to
> where two autobahns cross, so immediately you have the choice of going 4
> different directions each with 3 or 4 lanes, it helps a lot. I still
> have memories of going to the British Formula 1 GP and it taking 3 or 4
> hours just to get 10 miles down the road...
Yep. We visited Silverstone one year. [It's only a little way down the
road.] Took many hours to get in, and to get out again!
(Remind me: Where is "here"?)
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Stephen wrote:
> Well it is hard to find people with similar interests in RL. I've only ever met
> one Pover and spoken to one other who had heard of it.
Ain't that the truth!
> I also like showing off
> my adopted hometown. So next time you come up to London drop me a mail. Again
> that is an open invitation to all.
Wow. LOL! You're a braver man than I am - inviting a heap of random
people to come meet up sometime. ;-) Still, very friendly offer...
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>> Yeh ditto here, the football stadium is cleverly placed right next to
>> where two autobahns cross, so immediately you have the choice of going 4
>> different directions each with 3 or 4 lanes, it helps a lot. I still
>> have memories of going to the British Formula 1 GP and it taking 3 or 4
>> hours just to get 10 miles down the road...
>
> Yep. We visited Silverstone one year. [It's only a little way down the
> road.] Took many hours to get in, and to get out again!
I have several memories of being in a queue to get in for an hour or two,
and then a longer queue on the way out that never seemed to end. I think
it's mainly because Silverstone is in the middle of nowhere so *everyone*
uses the same single-lane road for 20 miles or so until it gets to the
motorway where some traffic goes different ways and starts to turn off.
Although recently it has improved, the FIA gave them some money to make a
lot of the road dual-carriageway and basically threatened them to improve
the access situation or they'd take away the race.
> (Remind me: Where is "here"?)
Munich, Germany.
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